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Post by lonewolf on Jun 9, 2019 6:41:45 GMT
did any of you vote for Brexit or are you all labour voters?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 10:07:00 GMT
I voted to remain , and I did not vote labour . I bet you voted UKIP Lonewolf.
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Post by lonewolf on Jun 9, 2019 10:29:32 GMT
I voted Leave and I voted Brexit Party.
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Post by bernie on Jun 9, 2019 17:07:16 GMT
I voted leave and almost everybody I know in my circle of friends voted leave too. Also I would never vote labour while Corbyn is leader.
i voted Brexit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 17:40:01 GMT
I voted leave and almost everybody I know in my circle of friends voted leave too. Also I would never vote labour while Corbyn is leader. i voted Brexit WHY? Why did you shut the door on millions of pounds of EU investment? Not to mention human rights that we are protected by whilst remaining in the EU? oh and the EU make sure that all the food that is brought in from Europe is labeled correctly - giving you the heads up on what chemical pesticides and fungicides farmers use on your groceries? Why? Most importantly do you regret voting leave? |
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Post by bernie on Jun 9, 2019 20:41:22 GMT
I voted leave and almost everybody I know in my circle of friends voted leave too. Also I would never vote labour while Corbyn is leader. i voted Brexit WHY? Why did you shut the door on millions of pounds of EU investment? Not to mention human rights that we are protected by whilst remaining in the EU? oh and the EU make sure that all the food that is brought in from Europe is labeled correctly - giving you the heads up on what chemical pesticides and fungicides farmers use on your groceries? Why? Most importantly do you regret voting leave? 1) Millions of pounds of EU investment where? I don't see any evidence anywhere round here. It ain't happening in our town 2) The European court of human rights is not part of the EU and our membership as a signatory is not affected by whether we are in or out of the EU. 3) EU food regulation is a joke, so much corruption. Just look at the horse meat scandal. Having lived in the US I can tell you their food regulation is ten times what the EU regulation is with one exception, GM modified crops, mainly corn and wheat. Tons of food that's legal in Europe would not be allowed in USA. 4) No I genuinely don't regret voting leave, I still want out, to me the EU was a good idea that simply failed. It could have been great but it failed because it was hijacked by the people now running the show. All we can do now is walk away with our head held high. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 21:16:09 GMT
WHY? Why did you shut the door on millions of pounds of EU investment? Not to mention human rights that we are protected by whilst remaining in the EU? oh and the EU make sure that all the food that is brought in from Europe is labeled correctly - giving you the heads up on what chemical pesticides and fungicides farmers use on your groceries? Why? Most importantly do you regret voting leave? 1) Millions of pounds of EU investment where? I don't see any evidence anywhere round here. It ain't happening in our town 2) The European court of human rights is not part of the EU and our membership as a signatory is not affected by whether we are in or out of the EU. 3) EU food regulation is a joke, so much corruption. Just look at the horse meat scandal. Having lived in the US I can tell you their food regulation is ten times what the EU regulation is with one exception, GM modified crops, mainly corn and wheat. Tons of food that's legal in Europe would not be allowed in USA. 4) No I genuinely don't regret voting leave, I still want out, to me the EU was a good idea that simply failed. It could have been great but it failed because it was hijacked by the people now running the show. All we can do now is walk away with our head held high. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. I am not sure where you live so cant comment on that 2. The Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union brings together the essential human rights of everyone living in the European Union. When Britain leaves the EU, the Government have said the Charter will no longer have effect in UK law. A lower level of protection for fundamental rights The Charter makes sure that EU law upholds basic rights and can also be used to strike down any EU law that undermines these rights. Many EU laws will be transferred to UK law and become ‘retained legislation’. After Brexit we will lose our protection around retained EU law, resulting in a lower level of protection for human rights. Source : www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/what-are-human-rights/how-are-your-rights-protected/what-charter-fundamental-rights-european-union-03. America is planning to ship chlorinated chicken into this country..... um so I totally disagree that America have high standards. 4 You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that ( so long as you didn't vote UKIP) I draw the line there and don't respect UKIP voters at all. Or Tory voters lol ;-) |
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Post by bernie on Jun 10, 2019 7:43:31 GMT
The chlorinated chicken issue is nothing to worry about. It is one of those concerns that has been drummed up by people with other agendas. All it means is the carcass is washed with a weak chlorine solution to neutralise some of the disgusting bacteria that gets spread over the meat during the process of killing and gutting the chickens. Its only the same sort of chlorine solution you swim in at the swimming baths. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Its only done to make the meat safer to handle
Is it better to do what we do and leave the meat contaminated? The real concern should be the meat processing industry in general and its lack of higyne.
On that count, US meat processing plants are much more highly regulated than some of the appalling places in Eastern Europe where secret filming has revealed all sorts of nasty things going on.
I still say I would rather eat American meat than something produced in Eastern Europe. There are other issues that go both ways concerning hormones and antibiotics. Neither side comes out particularly well on those.
The point is its not EU=good, US =bad.
Much more concerning in my opinion is the US practice of growing GM crops that are resistant to Gyophosphate weedkillers. They use them so they can spray the crops from the air but the weedkiller still gets absorbed by the plant, then we eat the plant
EU bans the seed but can't regulate the import of the produce so we are still eating GM food over here. Now that I am very much opposed to.
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Post by bigbear67 on Jun 10, 2019 9:03:39 GMT
I reckon instead of Euro chickens or U.S. chickens, why the fuck aren't we just eating our own home grown chickens? Why the fuck are we digging up thousands of acres of good arable land every week to build houses to house even more people, then buying food from abroad to feed them? We have our govt to blame for making this country dependant on every other country. We used to be a country to be proud of, now we're a fuckin laughing stock. Shame on them all....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 15:38:51 GMT
We should produce a lot more of our own food here , and I partly blame the decline in uk farming on supermarkets that demand shit varieties at impossibly low prices at a quality level based on apperance that is consistant and ridiculously hard to acheive .
For example ,the fruit farm I worked on got a contract for Bramley apples with M&S . The apples had to be an exact size as customers did not want one great big apple they wanted a few for their $. Not unusual to grade apples ,but M&S were over specific . They kept rejecting shipments and were slow payers and general PITA's, so farm abandond contract asap and all bramleys went for mincemeat or cider and farm went bust few years later . Farm been in family been there 4 generations . Now BNB and orchards grubbed out
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Post by bigbear67 on Jun 10, 2019 16:13:59 GMT
Surely a decent government would stop shit like that from happening. Instead ours let Europe tell our growers everything had to be uniform & our buying public were told that was what they wanted. A good govt would have looked out for our growers instead of selling us out. Pre common market nobody gave a fuck how big apples were or how straight cucumbers were, all that mattered was the taste. Now people want every type of food all year round. Nobody wants to wait for seasonal stuff & obviously quality has to suffer. English strawberries in season are beautiful, Spanish strawberries in October are fucking rubbish. How can a chicken reared from egg to table in 7 weeks be anything else but second rate? Things only go fucked when the majority stops demanding quality & settles for crap goods. The market will provide whatever overpriced, second rate garbage it can get away with providing. Bet a Bungo chicken is a far superior product to anything you could buy in a supermarket.....
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Post by VanWoman84 on Jun 10, 2019 16:22:40 GMT
Bigbear it's the supermarkets that dictate the appearance of veg ect. The nice looking apples sell, the funny looking one don't. So the supermarkets reject en masse the ones that don't win the beauty contest. As ever, it's business and money that rules. They then blame th EU, but it's all about the money. Stuff doesn't sell they lose money. Simples.
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Post by bernie on Jun 10, 2019 18:50:08 GMT
How is it though that I can go into a supermarket and buy a Spanish grown cucumber for 50p? No British grower could compete with that. The answer is because the Spanish growers are getting massive subsidies from the EU that British growers don't get
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Post by VanWoman84 on Jun 10, 2019 18:57:18 GMT
Never mind Spain, I can never understand ow some veg flown half way around the world can be cheaper than the same thing grown in Kent.
I agree bernie, there has to be something in the level of subsidies the EU farmers get.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 19:14:42 GMT
Bigbear it's the supermarkets that dictate the appearance of veg ect. The nice looking apples sell, the funny looking one don't. So the supermarkets reject en masse the ones that don't win the beauty contest. As ever, it's business and money that rules. They then blame th EU, but it's all about the money. Stuff doesn't sell they lose money. Simples. YES VW - supermarkets dictate where we get our food from and how the produce is treated. Governments across the world have dumbed down our education system, our health care system and now our food chain is being poisoned. But ahh well ...the big boys will still make money from our health care when we are all in hospital with aches, pains, bits falling off our bodies, growths and cancers. Like Bungo said homegrown veg and produce is the way to go. If I could afford to, I would buy everything from local farm shops or rear my own livestock as I have done before. but thats not an option for the moment. I used to like Lidls but have since noticed they sell stuff I'm not willing to consume. I had a loaf of bread from there once - I don't eat a lot of bread so I don't get through an entire loaf. The loaf sat in the cupboard for well over a month before it went off - im like wtf? Whats this stuff made of that it doesn't go rock hard and grow a fur coat ! Lidl lemons are treated with a carcinogenic fungicide with is harmful to fish and humans. Margarine is liquid plastic... There is petrol formula in blue energy drinks FFS What are they playing at? and noodles take 8 hours sometimes more to digest in your stomach because its not real food. |
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