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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 20, 2020 12:13:40 GMT
I agree with cricket. Frau Merkle is doing the best for her country. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump goes to sue China. The US do like a law suit... |
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Post by cricket on Apr 20, 2020 13:08:26 GMT
The "jackboots are on"??Merkel is a brilliant leader she is very focused on performing her job for her country to the best of her ability as ever.I would feel far better if she was our PM.Whilst your opinion is irrelevant, as are all our opinions as a small forum of people on the edge of society in the UK,why insinuate that Merkel is a nazi when all she is doing is stating the obvious?The global community should quite rightly demand compensation from China.China allowed, after several very serious warnings with SARS,MERS ,a virus to become a globally released mass killer because they failed to inform or contain it at the start.The initial problem was China.Footage getting out now shows hellish situations there that are totally contrary to the" media coverage of controlled decline of the virus" there now.What is really happening in China? Bad time of the month is it..............
A female displaying informed intelligence saying your opinion is irrelevant seems to have irked you fen.Resorting to "time of the month" retorts speaks volumes for your iq.PMSL.Bring on the handbags.I havent had a good spat for months...oops I mean one month.Ill get my spade out.I have plenty of room for another unexplained Rhubarb bed.Got 6 notches on my axe now.  |
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Post by fenrisulfr on Apr 20, 2020 14:04:22 GMT
Bad time of the month is it..............
A female displaying informed intelligence saying your opinion is irrelevant seems to have irked you fen.Resorting to "time of the month" retorts speaks volumes for your iq.PMSL.Bring on the handbags.I havent had a good spat for months...oops I mean one month.Ill get my spade out.I have plenty of room for another unexplained Rhubarb bed.Got 6 notches on my axe now. What irked me was your insinuation that I implied Merkel a nazi which was the furthest from my mind or did I touch a right wing nerve..........
I've met a lot on here and the other site at Meets, a number I've met on the road over the years but you I've never met and from what I gather nobody else has either.
If you really want to trade insults or play games then attend Dovedale and we'll do it face to face over a drink or consumables and not from behind a keyboard.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 20, 2020 14:26:02 GMT
fenrisulfr "The jackboots are on" could be interpreted as implying nazi uniform. cricket "but I like her style" is a compliment to Merkel So you are both in the right... And fenrisulfr we haven't met either, no offence not likely to as I don't plan to go to Dovedale. Never say never I suppose.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Apr 20, 2020 14:40:58 GMT
And fenrisulfr we haven't met either, no offence not likely to as I don't plan to go to Dovedale. Never say never I suppose. That is a shame as it would have been good to put a face to a name and to exchange ideas especially as you don't do vitriolic posts. |
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Post by cricket on Apr 20, 2020 14:51:16 GMT
And fenrisulfr we haven't met either, no offence not likely to as I don't plan to go to Dovedale. Never say never I suppose. That is a shame as it would have been good to put a face to a name and to exchange ideas especially as you don't do vitriolic posts. Vitriolic posts Fen?You think so far I have been vitriolic? Resorting to a females monthly cycle as a retort when you do not agree with what she says?I have never seen you retaliate to a males post that you do not agree with as "have you got a semen issue?". We have already met twice.Clearly as much as you erased me from your memory,you left a lasting scar upon my sensibilities.Am I actually female at all I wonder?My god,crisis of identity coming up.Who am I?Where am I?What am I?Am I?  ...  .....  .....  ....  ...  ...take your pick. |
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Post by givingitsomethought on Apr 20, 2020 16:41:08 GMT
I'm confused again, if they kept everyone in until no-one had died from it for a month, would that mean that no-one else could catch it because it couldn't still be alive anywhere? Although if they're still letting flights in would that mean it can still come in on someone else anyway so we wouldn't stop it coming in from somewhere else even if we contained it all here? It's confusing me
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Post by cornishharry on Apr 20, 2020 17:48:49 GMT
i,m carrying on much as normal though observing the social distance thing, never have liked crowds anyway and finding around lunchtime shops are quieter, tis saving me a fortune as normally spend 70 - 89 quid a week on fuel
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Post by cricket on Apr 21, 2020 10:55:38 GMT
I'm confused again, if they kept everyone in until no-one had died from it for a month, would that mean that no-one else could catch it because it couldn't still be alive anywhere? Although if they're still letting flights in would that mean it can still come in on someone else anyway so we wouldn't stop it coming in from somewhere else even if we contained it all here? It's confusing me If they quarantined everyone coming in for a month there would still be the overlapping infections going on.So far it has been thought that if you contract it ,the virus will show itself within a week.Trouble is many of the symptoms mimic flu or a bad cold.It is likely very many people had it months ago and didnt even realise.The only actual certain knowledge it exists in a person seems to be a test,some of which are not reliable,or the eventual destruction of lung tissue by which time a ventilator is needed.Also no one seems to know how long a carrier could have it,if you can infect after recovery or actually how long it could survive on a surface in optimum conditions.A nightmare scenario.I had a weird issue with taste in january with a dry cough but that was all.Did I have it?I have no means to test my own antibodies.I would willingly go back on the wards or into community work if I knew I had already got antibodies.However now there is uncertainty about whether or not you can catch it more than once or carry it.Considering it has been about since last November there is very little known.If China would release their research and stop covering up their potential liability it would be better.We are worried sick about our loved ones we dare not visit as they are very vulnerable. The thought that they may fall ill and pass without being with them is hell.  |
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Post by bernie on Apr 21, 2020 11:05:29 GMT
I'm confused again, if they kept everyone in until no-one had died from it for a month, would that mean that no-one else could catch it because it couldn't still be alive anywhere? Although if they're still letting flights in would that mean it can still come in on someone else anyway so we wouldn't stop it coming in from somewhere else even if we contained it all here? It's confusing me You are 100% bang on right with your assessment. What people are not really saying is that this virus was brought to these shores, it didn't just happen. As long as the ferries and airports are still operating there will always be people bringing it in. |
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Post by givingitsomethought on Apr 21, 2020 13:07:03 GMT
I'm confused again, if they kept everyone in until no-one had died from it for a month, would that mean that no-one else could catch it because it couldn't still be alive anywhere? Although if they're still letting flights in would that mean it can still come in on someone else anyway so we wouldn't stop it coming in from somewhere else even if we contained it all here? It's confusing me If they quarantined everyone coming in for a month there would still be the overlapping infections going on.So far it has been thought that if you contract it ,the virus will show itself within a week.Trouble is many of the symptoms mimic flu or a bad cold.It is likely very many people had it months ago and didnt even realise.The only actual certain knowledge it exists in a person seems to be a test,some of which are not reliable,or the eventual destruction of lung tissue by which time a ventilator is needed.Also no one seems to know how long a carrier could have it,if you can infect after recovery or actually how long it could survive on a surface in optimum conditions.A nightmare scenario.I had a weird issue with taste in january with a dry cough but that was all.Did I have it?I have no means to test my own antibodies.I would willingly go back on the wards or into community work if I knew I had already got antibodies.However now there is uncertainty about whether or not you can catch it more than once or carry it.Considering it has been about since last November there is very little known.If China would release their research and stop covering up their potential liability it would be better.We are worried sick about our loved ones we dare not visit as they are very vulnerable. The thought that they may fall ill and pass without being with them is hell. Yes, I think the end of life scenarios are never pleasant to think about in any circumstances but it does seem that there isn't an easy way out with this one which does make it even more of a worry if you have higher risk people in your life. The lack of knowledge about the whole situation is difficult. I did read that some doctors think it might have been here since September (although if that's the case I'm confused again about why we wouldn't have such a big outbreak until now?). But if it has been here since September, then the very awful cough, chest and temperature thing I had over Christmas may have been that. And if it was, would I now be immune? Would it mean my son's immune, as there's no way he wouldn't catch it from me given the close proximity we have to one another? There are so many unknowns and I think that makes it harder for everyone to cope as no-one has any definites (plus we don't have sources of information we can easily trust either). |
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Post by givingitsomethought on Apr 21, 2020 13:08:03 GMT
I'm confused again, if they kept everyone in until no-one had died from it for a month, would that mean that no-one else could catch it because it couldn't still be alive anywhere? Although if they're still letting flights in would that mean it can still come in on someone else anyway so we wouldn't stop it coming in from somewhere else even if we contained it all here? It's confusing me You are 100% bang on right with your assessment. What people are not really saying is that this virus was brought to these shores, it didn't just happen. As long as the ferries and airports are still operating there will always be people bringing it in. So really it is pretty unstopable? I just can't understand why they still haven't stopped non-essential travel. |
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Post by fenrisulfr on Apr 21, 2020 13:37:21 GMT
You are 100% bang on right with your assessment. What people are not really saying is that this virus was brought to these shores, it didn't just happen. As long as the ferries and airports are still operating there will always be people bringing it in. So really it is pretty unstopable? I just can't understand why they still haven't stopped non-essential travel. Blocking non-essential travel on ferries and planes would be easy but it's the ones who just don't stay in except for accepted reasons that need to be hammered. Traffic by me is back to normal for the time of day and on clocking the cars which make up about 90%, the rest being work vehicles, they appear to be mainly middle aged couples and older in their 'going out' clothes and without dogs. Very very few kids which is good to see but idealy there should be road-blocks to sort some of these people out.
Once compulsory wearing of masks is brought in then things will be different to an extent but a girl I know who is running a plant nursery next to a farm shop that I'm using told me that she had a long queue of cars waiting to get in this morning and has never been so busy and where I take the kids which is normally deserted had three mums with rugrats picnicing this afternoon, no separation distance at all.
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Post by bernie on Apr 21, 2020 14:25:16 GMT
Yes Fen everybody thinks the rules are for somebody else and not them. I am on lockdown looking after my mother in her flat. Its a first floor flat but in flat 1 on the ground floor there is a family with a little girl aged about five.
Most days for the past couple of weeks there have been three or more five year olds playing in the enclosed communal garden with the little girl, presumably schoolmates whose mums and dads are out at work.
Hardly a major crime but its bending the rules never the less.
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Post by cricket on Apr 21, 2020 14:49:11 GMT
Thats 5 kids then with maybe 3 families between them.So if just one of any of those families gets covid they all will.If they are playing in communal areas whilst infected anyon else using the communal area touching anything they have will be at risk.
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