CORONAVIRUS COVID-19

I agree, its been my experience in life that people who disregard one rule generally disregard others. So the people that are out to buy non essentials are probably the same people who are not social distancing, going round the back door of the pub for lock ins  etc.

Everybody seems to think they are a special case and rules are for other people.

I have not been the most conformist person in my life but I don't think my transgressions have ever killed anybody.  

make sure you read all of this otherwise, you will be upset by my comment....... I'm not a dog lover as most on here probably know ..so as an example of what I mean I don't see dog food as essential it's all so we could all have different ideas about deciding what is essential .. one example is are you going to the nearest supermarket a 2 miles away or are you travelling 15 miles to another one..you could be turned around and sent to your nearest one .. this has been happening if people don't follow the rules they will introduce more rules THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.. another one is adverts on Facebook market place and going to pick up cars and motorbikes over long distances unfortunately the twats in this world will fuck it up for all of us

I agree with you, Will, different things are essential for different people but as you say, some people are just pushing it to the nth degree, I just glanced through the paper now and there are apparently people all over the beach in Brighton and the London parks are full again.  It's a lot to do with where you are, I think - a friend of mine is in a very rural spot and has been taking his dog for three hour walks while on lockdown and in that time might see two other people two fields away, so he can do that and he's not causing anyone any bother, plus he's very scrupulous about hygiene and safety.  I sat on my front step and had a nice chat with my neighbour this morning who was in her garden, must be twelve feet between us so no chance of passing anything back and forth.  It will be tougher for people in big towns and cities as there are so many squished in together and very hard without a garden, especially if you have kids, but like you say, they will lockdown tighter if people don't rein it in a bit.

i was only using the dog food thing as an example of what i mean vw..

I suppose it ultimately comes down to what is important in life and what is important to an individuals life that makes it a life and not just an existence.
Cats and dogs and other pets are not just pets but part of the family to most owners, an important family member or their only companions.

My animals are my priority,if theyve no food i have to get it,i can and will survive on fuck all if i need to,to keep them in good health.

Maybe thats a warped perspective for some but its the only perspective that matters to me and if i didnt have them to worry about i wouldnt bother doing much at all.

You could apply the same argument to old people,what use are we,we cant work and a huge drain on the health and care services and the country and its finances.

Why do people need second homes and holiday homes and leisure vehicles and craft? But for most people they are a major part of their life and the purpose and rewards of their otherwise tedious toil in life.

At the end of the day this crisis will disappear and life will return to some degree of the normality it was previously, we have to preserve what we have now and pick up pieces of what's left afterwards.

There have always been people who act selfishly,disregard laws and rules or take advantage of situations to profit and exploit from it,why would this be any different?

People for the most part are trying to protect their families in the way they feel they have to or must even if thats not correct assumption and when they see Government ministers and senior advisors and rich elite doing the exact same thing -running away to safe havens- theyre going to do the same too.

If people are being allowed to shop for garden products and furniture and paint and motor parts then thats the fault of the stores allowing it because profits are more important than peoples safety.

Theres only a shortage in supermarkets because they allowed wholesale panic buying to go on instead of restricting what quantities people bought because again they were happy to see billions of ££s of sales go through the tills when they were going into recessive trading.
Now its totally fucked up.

The Government and supermarkets have ANPR everywhere,they know what vehicles go where and could easily control movements by imposing big postal fines on people who travel beyond a reasonable local distance.
They could close parks or beaches but they dont. They could use the army and police more heavy handedly as they ought to but they dont,because politically it will damage Tory interests..What else are people going to do but what they can to carry on as best they can and exploit the situation.

One good thing about the virus is its brought society closer and theres more kindness and concern for others that Brexit managed to rip apart.Its only a comparative minority who choose to ignore the rules.

But,its made it more obvious to me that our alternative 'hippy' community is even more like the mainstream than it ever was and everyone in it would be -or is -running away if they can afford to or doing what they can to preserve their lifes routine.

I know I dont belong in it anymore than i belong in mainstream society. Its all full of hypocrisy and dodgy judgementalism.

For the reasons ive given already. Youll read the exact same whining and spitting in the Daily Mail or the Sun or Mirror or Star or any other mainstream media or social media. I hear the exact same from people i talk to who are very much part of mainstream.
'We' are just a reflection of mainstream in microcosm.
There is no hippy or alternative community in reality,we just kid ourselves that one exists.