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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 11:28:54 GMT
Finally !!! They have admitted that âStandard Face Masksâ wont do that good and ARE NOT as great as what people think !! .. the ONLY ones that are Effective are âFiltered Air Biohazard Suit Ones â !!!
And Anti Bac Hand Gels Are NOT that Great Either !! And if peeps Still Want To Use Them âTHEN MAKE SUREâ they have An Alcohol Content Of 60% Or Over !!!
So now finally they are giving peeps some RIGHT information !! And why they just simply saying Keep Washing Hands With Soap And Warm Water !!
Which is good to say but every time you touch Hard Surfaces Outside Which Cmon is Everything from Door Handles to Transport Rails..Etc Shopping Trollys And Baskets Etc Etc Etc Itâs Gonna Be Impossible to run off washing your hands every minute ... !!
So yeah you can use anti bac over 60% BUT thatâs If you can find any !!
So I went onto The airwaves this morning and brought a couple of cheap boxes of Decorating Gloves like gloves you see blood test peeps wear BUT because they not called Surgical Gloves they cheaper even though they same thing hahsha
So now Ive Got now 500 pairs as boxes were 250 glovesper box as Decorating gloves l!!! So that should do the trick of simply when I finish shopping trolly/baskets etc and outside and about if I use cashpoint machines and hand travel rails buses trains etc etc etc etc Etc etc et. I can wear them And then just throw the pair away !! Yep itâs Simples hahahaha !!
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Post by fenrisulfr on Mar 3, 2020 11:45:46 GMT
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Post by bernie on Mar 3, 2020 11:46:49 GMT
Closing schools and cancelling concerts etc won't stop it spreading so why bother? How long can a school stay closed? It has a crippling effect on parents who have to work. Great for the teachers who still get paid to sit at home
Just let it run its course
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Post by VanWoman84 on Mar 3, 2020 12:05:18 GMT
That's a good plan danann, never thought of that. I have huge faith in my own immune system though. I am never ill with colds and flue, or even food poisoning. For this reason, I am not too worried. Even if I got the virus, I am pretty sure it will be no worse than flu. I'm not going to die! |
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 12:09:10 GMT
Currently watching Boris and two docs on tv. They appear to make sense on their plans and answers appear good but I still think that it's being played down but what has come out is they are saying that up to a 5th of the UK workforce could be off sick at the peak (2-3 mths for the peak to pass) of the outbreak which will hit up to 80% max of the population. Current UK polulation is about 68,000,000. UK workforce is about 29,000,000. If 1% die that's 500,000 compared to 17,000 flu deaths in 2018. Worst-case scenario there's a shitload of grief ahead for the whole world. I saw this as well and I thought âI donât trust them as far as I could throw them !! Then yes I agree they seem to be really Playing It Down and just seemed to be promoting Wash Your Hands !! Every Real Concerning Public Etc Questions Were Either brushed off as âWe Are Aware And WHEN AND IF THAT HAPPENS WE ARE PREPARED !! But THEY DIDNT SAY WHAT âTHAT PREPERATION IS !! âLike say what gov gonna do to make sure people off SICK due to Coronavirus will get Sick Pay esp in Low Income Jobsâ All Boris Said â we are aware and if that happens the government will be dealing with that !! BUT he didnât say WHAT IT WAS !! Like EVERYTHING ASKED JUDT LIKE SICK PAY QUESTION Got The Same ANSWER:( !! And the SO CALLED MEDICAL ADVICE ETC Was just the SAME AS WHAT WE KNOW ALREADY !! And It APPEARS THEY BLOWING IT OFF AS âNOT SERIOUSâ !! And the OVERAL ADVICE !! Donât DO NOTHING NOW AS ITS A WASTE OF TIME AS THR VIRUS PEEKS UP AND DOWN !! Oh yeah I forgot they did say WASH YOUR HANDS!! And ITS OK TO GO ON CROWDED TUBES AND BUSES ETC ETC JUST GO AROUND AA NORMAL âBUT WASH YOUR HANDS!!! I could NOT BELIEVE how they ALL PLAYED IT DOWN!!! So this Countries Tactics is gonna be ... 1. DO NOTHING NOW EXCEPT WASH YOUR HANDS !! 2... ITS SAFE TO TRAVEL ON BUSES AND TUBES AND CROWDED PLACES FOR NOW !!! But IF THAT CHANGES THEY LET US KNOW !!! Because âITS ALL IN HANDâ !!! and YES when they said about WORST CASE SERANAIOS !! They HAVE THAT IN HAND WHEN IT HAPPENS !!! So Overall they doing not much now .. as itâs too early BUT if it happens then they will do something that they HAVE IN PLACE !! But Also today I saw the English Man still in quarantine in Woho first site of virus ... he youngish and said first he got sniff and high temp and a cold but didnât go hospital as he seemed to get better then straight after that a week after getting over the cold he got the Flu .. so just did normal take tablets and went to be until he got better ..and still did not go hospital as he got over that and felt better ... and then A Week after that he all of a sudden Got Bad Cough And Got Breathing Difficulties !! Which forced and made him go to finally the Hospital as he couldnât BREATHE !! Whee he had tests and he had PHENOMENIA !! Caused by Coronavirus !!! Sooo in HIS WORDS !! He said Phase 1 The Cold .. was ok and NOT BAD ! As just a simple cold Phase 2 The Flu ... was ok NOT BAD !! As just the simple flu Phase 3... Pheumonia ! Terrifying .. Could Not Breathe he was Scared !!! But thankfully he recovered as young and healthy !!! So to me THIS U.K. GOV is ONLY USING SND SAYING ABOUT âPHASE 1 and Phase 2... Aâs they simple colds and flus etc BUT THEY NOT SAYING YOU GET THEM STRAIGHT AFTER EACH ABOUT A WEEK APART !! Itâs like a CHAIN OF EVENTS AS THE CRONOVIRUS SPREADS AND PROGRESSES THROUGH YOUR BODY GETTING WORSER FROM FIRST THE COLD TO THEN THE FLU TO FINAL AND WORST STAGE PHEUMONIA !! Which sadly is the KILLING STAGE ESP if your Elderley  . SO THEY DEFO PLAYING IT DOWN!! Cos letâs face it as he says âHE STILL GOES AROUND SHAKING STRANGERS Hands !!!! Which GPS ARE SAYING AND WHAT VIROLOGISTS SAY âDONT SHAKE HANDSâ!!!! But like I say itâs THIS GOVERMENTS WAY OF ACTING LIKE THIS VIRUS IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT !!! |
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 12:31:34 GMT
Do in short lol hahahahaha
This Countries Attitude Is
âCARRY ON AS NORMAL!! ... DONT DO ANYTHING EXCEPT WASH HANDS !! GO WHERE YA WANNA GO !! DONT WORRY ABOUT SICK PAY ETC AS THEY GOT SOMETHING IN HAND WHEN IT HAPPENS !! .. KEEP CALM CARRY ON !!
Because
WE ARE PREPARED OR SUDDEN INCREASE WE HAVE PLANS!! WHEN AND IF IT HAPPENS !!
Because WE NOT DOING ANYTHING NOW .. WE ARE SORTING OUT THE NHS PATIENTS AT MOMENT IN PREPARTION OF IT IF IT GETS WORDE !!! BECAUSE IF WE DO ANYTHING NOW IT WONT HAVE ANY EFFECT !!! AS ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH YET !!!
which to me is Strange !! Because I might be Wrong but I think thatâs a Slap in the face to Italy just for example who went in full force after even FIRST FEW CASES !! Ok Italy got it worse BUT as soon as it hit Italy they Acted straight away !!! Which ok yes downside people panicked and went shopping rampage etc causing more problems !! BUT to me I donât honestly know what I would think is better Act Straight Away Aggressiveky And have shopping rampage and panic for a while !! And try to STOP IT ... OR ACT
Like U.K. Seems to be doing !!! DONT ACT AGGRESIVELY! Have NO PANIC CARRY ON DOING THINGS SND GOING PLACES AND TRAVEL AND HO TO CROWDED AREAS AND SHAKE HANDS AND WASH HANDS SHUT MOTHING DOWN OR QUARATINE AREAS ETC ETC AND SORT SICK PAY AND FOOD ETC ALL OUT LATER USING THEIR PLANS And WAIT FOR IT TO SPREAD AND GROW MORE BEFORE AGGRESSIVE ACTION !TAKEN !!
Because itâs the Schools that have just down themselves NOT HOV telling or Gorcing them too like some HPS etc Chose to do that rather than being FORCED etc etc !!
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Post by NomadCris on Mar 3, 2020 12:41:33 GMT
I dont see it being as bad as 80% of the population or a fifth of the workforce getting it.It hasnt happened in Italy and thats down to the rapid response of authorities closing schools and public venues and isolating people.
The onlg reason its got as bad in China is because the authorities there ignored it and did nothing until it was already out of control.
Fatalities are mostly in over 60's and people with severely compromised health from pre-existing medical conditions.
It may be more of a threat to a wider population if mixed in with flu /measles /cold outbreaks common in winter and spring.
An unsatisfactory point is some confirmed cases in China that subsequently recovered and tested negative have subsequently retested positive with no symptoms which raises the question were the tests correct or has the virus an ability to remain in the system but not at easily detectable levels like sime viruses can. That would present problems in controlling it.
We wont really know where its going for another few weeks.
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 12:46:34 GMT
I dunno ? Maybe itâs just me who thinks and feels like this ? Or if itâs just disbelief at this Countries lack of seeming urgency and playing it down that doesnât sit well or feel well for me .. as no other country seems to have this sort of Non Urgent No Action needed yet except Wash your hands hahahHa Attitude !!? And Leave it and do things when it gets Worde as according to them If They Take Action Now it wonât work anyway !!! Never mind it would HELP STOP THE SPREAD !! But to them IT WONT! As it Peaks On And Off ... BUT what they saying is Rubbisj as Different Peeps Peak And Become Active NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME !!! So HOW can they even SAY THEY AS THEY GUESSING !!! USING INFECTED PEOPLE AS A GUIDLINE !! But what about the ONES WHO DONT KNOW YET THEY GOT IT !!!! ?? They donât know there PEAK TIMES!! But like I just said âMaybe itâs Just me who thinks this hahahaha  |
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Post by NomadCris on Mar 3, 2020 12:54:38 GMT
It wont spread if people are sensible and aware and authorities take appropriate action.
The reason flu,measles chicken pox and other epidemics spread is because people ignore symptoms or turn up at work or send kids to school and use public transport and supermarkets when theyre ill and spread it round workplaces and schools and shops and thus from family to family.
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 12:57:55 GMT
I dont see it being as bad as 80% of the population or a fifth of the workforce getting it.It hasnt happened in Italy and thats down to the rapid response of authorities closing schools and public venues and isolating people. The onlg reason its got as bad in China is because the authorities there ignored it and did nothing until it was already out of control. Fatalities are mostly in over 60's and people with severely compromised health from pre-existing medical conditions. It may be more of a threat to a wider population if mixed in with flu /measles /cold outbreaks common in winter and spring. An unsatisfactory point is some confirmed cases in China that subsequently recovered and tested negative have subsequently retested positive with no symptoms which raises the question were the tests correct or has the virus an ability to remain in the system but not at detectable levels.That would present problems in controlling it. We wont really know where its going for another few weeks. Maybe NomadCris they say 80% because Unlike Italy who acted Quickly and Swiftly chopping the many heads of the Virus Snake .. Here in the U.K. they doing NOTHING And NOT ACTING SWIFTLY etc etc and Motto Of Carry On As Normal !!! Wash Hands!! itâs Nothing To Worry About Its Like A Mild Cold/Flu !!! As itâs Too Soon to Do Anything Now As It Wont Work And Still Shake Hands Etc Etc Etc So they know that Here in the U.K. There will be An Explosion Of 80% ?? And A 5th Of The Workforce !! Because the left it Too Late to start proper precautions and actions like Italy Did Etc? Cos I wouldnât put it past this Gov I truly wouldnât !! It makes no sense to me NomadCris Non Respect Of this Terrible Virus Because To Truly Understand A Virus You Have To Respect That Virus To Fully Understand It !! And There Is Still SO MUCH THEY DONT KNOW ABOUT IT !!! So WHY they seem to be sooo Dismissive And Not Bothered Sort Of Action And wait for it to Get Worse/Explode Etc !! Boggles and Baffles Me ! |
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 13:04:08 GMT
And at least the school and gp surgeries and even hotels and pubs etc have taken things into there own hands and closed for thorough cleaning and safety measures put in place of there own backs than rather waiting for this Gov to make up there mind and there time to act and forced that decisions as emergency control of virus ...
I think itâs about MONEY because if Gov Force shutdowns and closures the GOV HAS TO PAY!!! For Forcing The Shutdown and Closures Etc !
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Post by fenrisulfr on Mar 3, 2020 13:05:11 GMT
It wont spread if people are sensible and aware and authorities take appropriate action. The reason flu,measles chicken pox and other epidemics spread is because people ignore symptoms or turn up at work or send kids to school when theyre ill and spread it round workplaces and schools and thus from family to family. The only problem there and it's not the virus, it's the minority British public and the word 'sensible.
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Post by danann on Mar 3, 2020 13:14:56 GMT
Funny you should say that Fenrisulfr. They even said a GP today on tv Live thing show ... that she was On The Tube And a Man was Sitting Coughing All Over The place Without Putting His hand Over His Mouth Or Turn his Head Into His Arm Etc Nope He Just Coughed Everywhere !!! And before she had the chance to say anything âA Woman turned and said to him âWould you mind putting your hands over your mouth or covering your mouth when coughing please !! Well he just kicked off a verbal abuse and said âWho do you think you are telling me what to do !! She said âActually Iâm A NURSE !! And in view of what is going on and happening Itâs polite and sensible to do that !!! He said âWELL GET A LIMO TO WORK THEN AND NOT THE TUBE/TRAINâ !!!
Jeez how Rude and Unkind and Stupid is that to do and say !!!
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Post by NomadCris on Mar 3, 2020 13:32:21 GMT
I dont like being fair to governments but this one has isolated risk cases in detainment centres or forced self isolation and closed doctors surgeries where affected cases have cropped up and vigourously traced lines of contact.
Its not entirely the government or health authorities responsibility to control disease outbreaks.
Most of the responsibility lies with individuals taking appropriate measures to protect themselves and families.
They dont bother though,thats why 60,000+ people globally die of common flu....because "its only the flu".
If you go out in countryside inhabited by Bears or Moose you take a gun with you in case one attacks you.
But somehow its always someone elses responsibility to protect us from everything.
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Post by NomadCris on Mar 3, 2020 13:43:09 GMT
It wont spread if people are sensible and aware and authorities take appropriate action. The reason flu,measles chicken pox and other epidemics spread is because people ignore symptoms or turn up at work or send kids to school when theyre ill and spread it round workplaces and schools and thus from family to family. The only problem there and it's not the virus, it's the minority British public and the word 'sensible.
Theres Darwin award winners everywhere. The majority of infection transmitters have been totally asymptomatic and unaware they had the infection. People are scared now and maybe a little more spatially aware. |
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