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Post by NomadCris on Feb 26, 2020 20:11:38 GMT
When i grew up virtually nothing was in plastic,everything was packed in cardboard or paper or glass
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Post by givingitsomethought on Feb 26, 2020 21:26:11 GMT
When i grew up virtually nothing was in plastic,everything was packed in cardboard or paper or glass Yes same here, and there wasn't as much litter thrown about partly because we weren't allowed to eat outside? My mum said it was common lol, the one exception was an ice cream in the summer, but it seemed to be the case with most of the kids on our estate, I just don't remember eating and drinking constantly the way it seems to be now? Probably just wasn't as much food you could buy to have on the go. Sweets came in a paperbag, you could get 20 half penny sweets from the shop and that was enough to make you feel sick  It does make me feel sad, we were walking into town the other day and the verge at the side of the road is just choked with rubbish, and it's right back as far as you can see into the bushes as well. There's a subway you can cut through to get to Tesco so to walk there from our house is less than ten minutes and we collected five trolleys on our way through the other day. I don't know whether kids nick them or if people take their shopping home in them and then just chuck them out but I don't get it, you really are crapping on your own doorstep? And I won't even start on the thing I read on Facebook the other day about a bus stop that has a sign on it asking people not to poo there? I don't know if it's true or not but Jesus on a bike, wtf? I did watch a programme on fly tipping a while ago and they followed people that go out and clean up motorway laybys and they were literally shovelling up human shit - people going off in to the bushes for a poo and they don't even bury it, I had to switch it off lol, I can't get my head around the way some people are. |
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Post by givingitsomethought on Feb 26, 2020 21:26:46 GMT
Sorry I just realised I've gone a bit off topic there, the XR stuff's not really about where people take a dump Lol |
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 26, 2020 23:08:32 GMT
Theres definitely a major difference in attitude. If you dared drop anything on the floor you would get someone shout at you or slap you up the ear and be made to clean up.
No one seems to gives a shit now,its always someone elses problem to clean up, 'thats what theyre paid for'.
I live in a very rural spot and I counted 187 cans bottles and takeaway boxes and cups in a 200 metre stretch.
Weve had cars and smashed up caravans and settees,fridges, washing machines, 40 + tins of paint dumped in the lane over the last 2 years and we are actually a mile from a council recycling yard.
I think it really is a sense of self denial that any of the waste problem people produce is their own responsibility to dispose of properly.
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Post by givingitsomethought on Feb 27, 2020 6:55:57 GMT
Theres definitely a major difference in attitude. If you dared drop anything on the floor you would get someone shout at you or slap you up the ear and be made to clean up. No one seems to gives a shit now,its always someone elses problem to clean up, 'thats what theyre paid for'. I live in a very rural spot and I counted 187 cans bottles and takeaway boxes and cups in a 200 metre stretch. Weve had cars and smashed up caravans and settees,fridges, washing machines, 40 + tins of paint dumped in the lane over the last 2 years and we are actually a mile from a council recycling yard. I think it really is a sense of self denial that any of the waste problem people produce is their own responsibility to dispose of properly. That's a horrifying amount of rubbish, I really don't understand it. And I don't get where the attitude change comes from, we were brought up not to do it, I've brought my son up not to do it, at what point do people stop teaching their kids not to chuck it in the bin? And yes, like you say, Cris, being told off for dropping things, I accidentally dropped some orange peel on the ground once and my nan, what she didn't threaten me with! But we were at the arcade a while ago and a lady with a little one in a pushchair finished a box of fudge and just threw the box on the ground, didn't even look for a bin. I picked it up and said "I think you dropped this" and gave it back to her. I find it even worse in rural areas; you kind of think people would want to keep the countryside nice? But we're in Devon now and honestly, it's the filthiest place I've ever lived in, even where we lived in London didn't have this much rubbish (although probably because they swept the roads more often). But yes, I think XR have got their work cut out for them when people don't even use bins. |
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 27, 2020 7:48:23 GMT
Being a scummy filthy bastard is definitely a British and US 'culture' thing that you dint see much of in other European countries.
Theres waste binsc everywhere in UK and people still chuck their shit on the floor.
Environmental pollution certainly isnt at the front of most peoples concerns,theyre too busy making a mess.
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Post by bernie on Feb 27, 2020 8:14:32 GMT
Being a scummy filthy bastard is definitely a British and US 'culture' thing that you dint see much of in other European countries. Theres waste binsc everywhere in UK and people still chuck their shit on the floor. Environmental pollution certainly isnt at the front of most peoples concerns,theyre too busy making a mess. I wouldn't say its an American thing, most places you go to in America are absolutely spotless, and they get their groceries in paper bags too a lot of times. You do get a lot of packaging but the garbage was collected daily where we were last year. |
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 27, 2020 8:29:06 GMT
They must have changed a lot, friends in Missouri and Oregon are always commenting about dumped trash.
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Post by bernie on Feb 27, 2020 10:14:18 GMT
They must have changed a lot, friends in Missouri and Oregon are always commenting about dumped trash. Oh yes they do still get it, like anywhere. But the level of civic pride is generally much higher. The other thing is you can dump absolutely anything at the local tip for free so no incentive to fly tip |
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 27, 2020 20:17:16 GMT
Yes well council charges at tips have made flytipping 1000% worse than it used to be.
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Post by danann on Feb 27, 2020 20:45:26 GMT
Grrrgh do not be getting me started about “Fly Tipping “”  (( ... As sadly outside my little house as I end corner house many sunrises I walk out Newborn day and blimmin Bed Layers/Matresses Are Dumped by my Outside Wall and washing machines and fridges and freezers And furniture and rubbish etc etc etc and at different corners too all down my road I live and walk upon ( It’s terrible and sooo bad around here cos as you say NomadCris The price for Taking rubbish To has hit the roof and tonnes of money !!! So off course Those peeps who do rubbish and /House clearance jobs won’t pay councils .. BUT they charge the customer for council charges and then They GO AND BLIMMIN DUMP IT ALL OVER THE STREETS AND OUTSIDE HOUSES AND STREET CORNERS FOR FREE AND FOR NOTHING !!!! It’s Disgusting and the Councils cannot catch them as due to CutBacks they cannot have CCTV Everywhere and the Flyyy Tippers are Clever as THEY KNOW WHERE THE PLACES NO CAMERAS BE AND ARE (( |
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It does make me feel sad, we were walking into town the other day and the verge at the side of the road is just choked with rubbish, and it's right back as far as you can see into the bushes as well. There's a subway you can cut through to get to Tesco so to walk there from our house is less than ten minutes and we collected five trolleys on our way through the other day. I don't know whether kids nick them or if people take their shopping home in them and then just chuck them out but I don't get it, you really are crapping on your own doorstep? And I won't even start on the thing I read on Facebook the other day about a bus stop that has a sign on it asking people not to poo there? I don't know if it's true or not but Jesus on a bike, wtf? I did watch a programme on fly tipping a while ago and they followed people that go out and clean up motorway laybys and they were literally shovelling up human shit - people going off in to the bushes for a poo and they don't even bury it, I had to switch it off lol, I can't get my head around the way some people are.
(( ... As sadly outside my little house as I end corner house many sunrises I walk out Newborn day and blimmin Bed Layers/Matresses Are Dumped by my Outside Wall and washing machines and fridges and freezers And furniture and rubbish etc etc etc and at different corners too all down my road I live and walk upon