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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 12, 2018 9:41:25 GMT
I fear you are one step away from calling yourself something completely unpronounceable!!  |
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Post by bigbear67 on Oct 12, 2018 10:49:44 GMT
It's the artist formerly known as Om!😎
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 11:42:27 GMT
I fear you are one step away from calling yourself something completely unpronounceable!! Well, he does live in Wales after all . . . |
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Post by bernie on Oct 12, 2018 19:01:29 GMT
I fear you are one step away from calling yourself something completely unpronounceable!! Well, he does live in Wales after all . . . Nothing wrong with Wales, I think the area to the north of Cardiff is about as perfect as I have found |
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 12, 2018 19:30:25 GMT
I think Mags was referring to the complicated welsh language. 😏
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2018 20:34:35 GMT
I think Mags was referring to the complicated welsh language. 😏 Indeed yes. Scotland and Wales are my favourite places and people. I've spent time trying to learn to speak Welsh, but it's so long since I've been there, I 'll have to start again next time I find myself there. I love it when I'm driving and the sign painted on the road changes from English to ARAF. 😁 |
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 12, 2018 21:21:09 GMT
I think Mags was referring to the complicated welsh language. 😏 Indeed yes. Scotland and Wales are my favourite places and people. I've spent time trying to learn to speak Welsh, but it's so long since I've been there, I 'll have to start again next time I find myself there. I love it when I'm driving and the sign painted on the road changes from English to ARAF. 😁 I learned quite a bit of Welsh when i lived there,Gaelic too when i lived in the Hebrides. When i get back to Scotland to live i fully intend relearning it. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 8:36:27 GMT
I thought it kind of me to have Bungo as my name , as it saves having to cut and paste unless you have special keyboard innit  I can read Welsh better than speak it ! Its all the 'same letters' but different sounds that make it tricky ! |
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Post by bernie on Oct 13, 2018 9:10:46 GMT
I think Mags was referring to the complicated welsh language. 😏 A lot of the most commonly used Welsh words are the same as English. Dole, benefits office, income support, tax credits, etc. You pick it up very quickly . Joking aside, one of the problems Welsh has it that it is an ancient rural language and cannot cope with the modern constantly evolving changes to our vocabulary that modern life brings. So the Welsh Language Society basically make up a word to plug the gap. Inevetably, they are now steadily drifting towards a language that's peppered with more and more English words. Or made up words that aren't really traditionally Welsh but are an attempt to block the encroachment of English. They are not alone, all ancient languages suffer the same problem. |
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 13, 2018 10:01:47 GMT
I think Welsh and Gaelic are beutiful languages and lend themselves well to poetry and song,the Welsh I know are very proud of their bards,but as you say like most old languages that predate modern inventions or customs have adapted English words..in that respect French or Italian are no different to Welsh when referring to Televisions Telephones Computers Cinema Etc etc..Language demands to be understood by its users on a daily basis though so adaptation is inevitable and all Languages evolve.Modern English is almost unrecognisable to that of middle or old English and will change more,text speak is one example or how it may evolve.Which is one reason i admire the Scots and Welsh determination to preserve the native language.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 11:30:42 GMT
I find driving in Wales difficult (though I love being a passenger). I look at the bilingual road signs and automatically try to pronounce and then translate the Welsh words in my head. I don't even see the English words. It makes for many missed turns. 😁
The language is beautiful though. As with Scottish and Irish Gaelic, I am familiar with a lot of the words from childhood, when I read books which had names/words/sayings from all these languages. They usually had an index somewhere to explain pronunciation and meanings, which I made full use of.
I was also brought up in a house full of music. I always liked folk music and can remember singing "Bheir mi o" as a lullaby, though heaven knows where I picked it up. Living in Borderlands, I suppose language has more fluidity. (I also sang French and German songs as a child).
I love language, and am renowned among friends/family as a wordsmith in real life. 😁
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Post by boaty on Oct 15, 2018 17:54:46 GMT
One one hand it's nice to see the Welsh preserving their language, but it does cause problems. For example, a local doctors surgery is soon to close down, because once the prospective new doctors discover that the local schools are first-Welsh they don't come back.
It's a nightmare to spell out delivery addresses to people, try explaining "Eglywswrw" over the phone.
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