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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 15:08:20 GMT
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Post by offgrid hero on Oct 21, 2022 15:17:33 GMT
I heard that on the radio earlier.
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 15:31:55 GMT
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Post by bernie on Oct 21, 2022 15:54:24 GMT
We must remind ourselves that it is the membership of the party that has the final say
Boris has huge support among the rank and file members who never wanted him to go in the first place.
I reckon he's home and dry. It will be a two horse race between him and Sunak
None of the other candidates are likely to get the required 100 nominations from the MPs
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 21, 2022 15:58:48 GMT
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 16:26:04 GMT
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 16:59:46 GMT
We must remind ourselves that it is the membership of the party that has the final say Boris has huge support among the rank and file members who never wanted him to go in the first place. I reckon he's home and dry. It will be a two horse race between him and Sunak None of the other candidates are likely to get the required 100 nominations from the MPs it was the membership that saddled us with Truss. Both Johnson and Mordaunt are popular with the membership. 1922 were hinting they preferred not to have to refer the decision to the membership ie they want a clear likely winner by Monday or soon after. The city might prefer Sunak but not many other people have forgotten Sunak was the one who began the process that brought Boris Johnson down. Boris has the charisma and popular electorate appeal Sunak completely lacks.If Sunak hadnt been chancellor who would even know who he is outside of the city. If Boris wants to win again he needs to look like hes learned from his mistakes and look like a competent potential leader not a bumbling clown. Ordinary people here tend to forgive a lack of polish,even rogueishness if the person is still competent at their job. |
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Post by bernie on Oct 21, 2022 17:28:40 GMT
We must remind ourselves that it is the membership of the party that has the final say Boris has huge support among the rank and file members who never wanted him to go in the first place. I reckon he's home and dry. It will be a two horse race between him and Sunak None of the other candidates are likely to get the required 100 nominations from the MPs it was the membership that saddled us with Truss. Both Johnson and Mordaunt are popular with the membership. 1922 were hinting they preferred not to have to refer the decision to the membership ie they want a clear likely winner by Monday or soon after. The city might prefer Sunak but not many other people have forgotten Sunak was the one who began the process that brought Boris down. I think Truss got the "Not Sunak" vote for the reason you say. Sunak is tainted by what he did and the author of all these problems. Party gate was a load of nonsense really. A manufactured scandal rather than a real one. And did he know that somebody in the whips office goes round pincing young men's bums when he gets drunk? Who cares? |
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 17:43:29 GMT
it was the membership that saddled us with Truss. Both Johnson and Mordaunt are popular with the membership. 1922 were hinting they preferred not to have to refer the decision to the membership ie they want a clear likely winner by Monday or soon after. The city might prefer Sunak but not many other people have forgotten Sunak was the one who began the process that brought Boris down. I think Truss got the "Not Sunak" vote for the reason you say. Sunak is tainted by what he did and the author of all these problems. Party gate was a load of nonsense really. A manufactured scandal rather than a real one. And did he know that somebody in the whips office goes round pincing young men's bums when he gets drunk? Who cares? well that was the lack of competence and professionalism that got him ditched..and they were all guilty of it to some degree. If youre in public office you have to behave appropriately and not ignore the rules youre telling everyone else to follow.Its elitist and disrespectful and lost them respect. It was and is a culture of flagrant disregard of the electorate and applies to politicians of all parties,some of them forget they need to have standards of behaviour above reproach. But lack of standards in office is as much a problem in local and regional politics and institutions of the UK as it is in Westminster. Somewhere along the line personal discipline in the office you hold went out of the window and its become an elitist attitude that once there they can do as they please,cover up wrongdoings and bend the truth. The electorate is sick of it. If the Tories become unelectable theyve only themselves to blame. Theyve squandered the massive electoral mandate they got in 2019 from the Brexit effect on serving themselves and their own pockets and those of their business associates. What annoys me most about this is 6 weeks or so ago they were all egging on Truss to deregulate,throw away red tape and environmental and planning controls and ditch the age old tried and trusted model of financing the country. When it all went pear shaped they accused her of engaging in unworkable personal projects and had to go. She made the mistake of pandering to their needs and their desire to rip everything up in the first place. Her actions were no different to Sunaks crackpot freeport schemes and levelling up schemes and Dorries and her nonsense restructuring of the BBC and media. But the one who paid the price of all this Tory shitshow of lab experiments is Truss... and we the citizens of the country. im no fan of hers but i think shes been badly used and abused. Like 'the witch cannot cure our collective insanity so we must burn her at once' |
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 21, 2022 19:00:31 GMT
But that's the Tory way, and a perfect example of the Tory mindset. Truss's policies were a direct appeasement of the Tory donors.
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 21, 2022 19:06:07 GMT
It is,the Tory party did the same to Boris,now they want him back. Theyre a poison IMO .Theyve turned Truss into a pariah to hide their own dealings i the mess,exactly as they did to Boris. They dont deserve office.
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Post by valdez on Oct 21, 2022 21:44:01 GMT
its one big farce
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Post by bernie on Oct 21, 2022 21:49:45 GMT
But that's the Tory way, and a perfect example of the Tory mindset. Truss's policies were a direct appeasement of the Tory donors. Tory doners are probably not that bothered about tax cuts as I don't suppose many of them pay much tax, if any. The richer you are the less tax you pay generally speaking. That's nothing new |
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Post by valdez on Oct 21, 2022 22:05:11 GMT
im sure that it is in their mindset that they are above the general population of this country rules/taxes/decent conduct does not concern them, they would not be bothered if OAPs and kids died because of lack of heat or eating, and its time the restaurant in Westminster got rid of all the fancy food an drink or made them pay the full price for it, but then again it would just go on expenses
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Post by NomadCris on Oct 23, 2022 19:14:14 GMT
We're being softened up for more financial pain and misery while they carry on getting rich..feckless despotic fuckers.They got us in this mess and we're paying for it, big time www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63364240 |
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