|
|
Post by VanWoman84 on Aug 15, 2022 12:53:44 GMT
OMG that's horrendous. No criminal charges yet patients are held indefinitely. Even detention under the Mental Health Act can have set limits and reviews. |
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Aug 15, 2022 14:04:13 GMT
Scotland sets a lot of its own laws,UK law does not always apply there on certain matters.
|
|
|
|
Post by VanWoman84 on Aug 15, 2022 14:53:03 GMT
I know, and those laws are usually more sensible than English laws.
|
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Aug 15, 2022 15:25:06 GMT
I think its likely those MH laws are residual elements of what once applied in England and Wales and since been changed here but not Scotland.
England and Wales was quite well renowned for locking up anyone with MH disorders or just behavioural issues.
|
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Sept 14, 2022 18:18:20 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by givingitsomethought on Sept 14, 2022 19:03:14 GMT
Our local one's been short on the basics every time I've been in the last couple of weeks. Even their cheapest potatoes have gone up another couple of pence a kilo this week. It makes sense that people are stocking up where they can. I don't get the thing about people feeling stigmatised by yellow labels though - that had never occurred to me? I'd rather have a basket full of yellow label food than no food. Although truthfully I'd rather have a basket full of free food from the skip but I don't have Vannie's knack for finding these things - everywhere I look they seem to keep the bins locked up! |
|
|
|
Post by VanWoman84 on Sept 14, 2022 19:20:18 GMT
Well good news, my nearest Asda have gone back to final reductions. Not as good as it was for the meat, but I still got a bag of chicken legs for 40p and some quality burgers for 70p, also fruit and veg for 10p again. Looks like they got sick of throwing it away!
I'm happy.
|
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Sept 21, 2022 13:54:25 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by bernie on Sept 22, 2022 8:13:34 GMT
Without spending hours on the Internet checking if I'm right, I would suggest it's because most of them are not owned or registered in the UK? |
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Sept 22, 2022 10:18:18 GMT
Gazprom isnt owned by Germans,its a Russian company but Germany has seized its German assets.
BP is one of the worlds biggest gas and oil companies and UK based headquarters in London.
In a national emergency,government has the power or can enact powers to seize control of any or all assets essential to the nations survival.
When there are threats of potential prolonged power losses and the economy not being able to function because of the price of fuel and companies going out of business that i would have thought constitute an emergency.
|
|
|
|
Post by beltfedwombat on Sept 22, 2022 18:03:30 GMT
Im just in utter despair of the government,
ffk me we should nationalise the gas companies or windfall tax the fkk out of the energy companies and pass that on to the bill payers
the bullshit that flew about they wernt going to tax energy companies hard unless the energy companies invested in or energy security green energy etc etc
That bullshit means fracking which will make reese mogs cronies a lot of loot from share value in these bloody fracking companies,
I heard years ago from a source our new pm celebrated and ordered more champaigne when fracking was given the green light,
also the goverment will prob back out of the climate deal meaning more bullshit was told on saying energy companies needed to safe guard for the climate targets ..
all bollocks
i just cant believe how blooy useless these people are in power.
i think there mad thatcherites maybe reese mogg is influencing everything ,
if interest rates go up his Ilk make more on shares pensions etc etc, just right for the twat to retire and sit on a massive pension scheme .
If your a pensioner maybe things might be better but from what i remember of the thatcher years as a kid everything was a mess mum and dad nearly went bust as the mortgage and there loans went up to 14 percent overnight causing a massive recesion ,
utter dickheads
meanwhie my gran and grandad worshipped maggie becuase there pensions and savings rocketed .
so weeve got a load of thatcherites in the worst possible sort who dont give a fkk about anything
i feell better now
sorry for the rant
|
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Sept 22, 2022 18:26:23 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by givingitsomethought on Sept 22, 2022 18:43:24 GMT
Im just in utter despair of the government, ffk me we should nationalise the gas companies or windfall tax the fkk out of the energy companies and pass that on to the bill payers the bullshit that flew about they wernt going to tax energy companies hard unless the energy companies invested in or energy security green energy etc etc That bullshit means fracking which will make reese mogs cronies a lot of loot from share value in these bloody fracking companies, I heard years ago from a source our new pm celebrated and ordered more champaigne when fracking was given the green light, also the goverment will prob back out of the climate deal meaning more bullshit was told on saying energy companies needed to safe guard for the climate targets .. all bollocks i just cant believe how blooy useless these people are in power. i think there mad thatcherites maybe reese mogg is influencing everything , if interest rates go up his Ilk make more on shares pensions etc etc, just right for the twat to retire and sit on a massive pension scheme . If your a pensioner maybe things might be better but from what i remember of the thatcher years as a kid everything was a mess mum and dad nearly went bust as the mortgage and there loans went up to 14 percent overnight causing a massive recesion , utter dickheads meanwhie my gran and grandad worshipped maggie becuase there pensions and savings rocketed . so weeve got a load of thatcherites in the worst possible sort who dont give a fkk about anything i feell better now sorry for the rant I think a rant is understandable  I think the difficulty is whatever's going on, some people do really well out of it and some don't, more through circumstances at the time rather than anything much they do themselves. Good or bad luck, depending on which way it goes. My parents, and all of my friends parents, bought their council houses when that first became possible to do. My mum and step-dad now live in a house that's worth about £400,000 more than they paid for it and they were able to borrow against the house to set up a business, which they eventually sold for another big profit. And lots of others are in similar situations, so they did well out of it. The flip side is that none of their grandchildren can afford to even rent in that area now, so families are scattered all over, working long hours and still barely making enough to pay the bills (especially now) - and there's no-one nearby to pop in on the elderlies to help out, which means having to pay for care becomes more likely, and it all just snowballs about being good for some and not so good for others. It's all very frustrating. |
|
|
|
Post by beltfedwombat on Sept 23, 2022 6:53:48 GMT
trickle-down economics don't work
i ve done work for bankers some are often the worst after a deal all the time gloating about how they gt stuff for nothing they dont go can you do this job for me when your done ill pay up the rate you want
instead, they go oh you'll get that done in 10 mins won't you etc etc all a game which i usually reply with ten hours and any haggling i just add more on.
s trickle down ecos don't work if you earn more and have more you still like a deal its natural
but if you have a lot in the bank
personally, if i did have a lot in the bank which i don't
id pay more for the nhs , and everything else
if we were in tough times id understand if i had a lot of money id have to pay more tax to help us all get going again
id be concerned that the goverment is borrowing more money to keep us afloat on the start of a recession
I dont know if it was possible to tax right at the start of a recession but
big internet corporations should have been taxed more
vat should have been lowered but every person trading like me pays and chages vat on labour its that simple so you get more vat in
like theres millions of vat not going in to the treasury nowadays
energy companies windfall them
just have a simple strategic tax poiicy get a bit more off those that can afford it and give a bit more for those struggling ,
|
|
|
|
Post by NomadCris on Sept 23, 2022 7:21:32 GMT
Truss is doing the same as Reagan and Thatcher did in the eighties,deregulation of financial and corporate sectors and letting them pay less tax thinking theyll pull the economy out of a rut and share their wealth around.
They wont,they didnt do it back in the 80's and 90's,they just pocketed all the tax savings and stopped investing in anything but money markets.
Hence why weve got a crumbling infrastructure and ineffective utilities and the fat cats just keep awarding themselves more money and share bonuses and the whole system will return to being ad corrupt as it was back then.
The only advantage is in two years time when Truss has finished destroying the country not even the Tory voters will vote Tory...another 1997 Labour landslide in the making.
|
|
I think the difficulty is whatever's going on, some people do really well out of it and some don't, more through circumstances at the time rather than anything much they do themselves. Good or bad luck, depending on which way it goes. My parents, and all of my friends parents, bought their council houses when that first became possible to do. My mum and step-dad now live in a house that's worth about £400,000 more than they paid for it and they were able to borrow against the house to set up a business, which they eventually sold for another big profit. And lots of others are in similar situations, so they did well out of it. The flip side is that none of their grandchildren can afford to even rent in that area now, so families are scattered all over, working long hours and still barely making enough to pay the bills (especially now) - and there's no-one nearby to pop in on the elderlies to help out, which means having to pay for care becomes more likely, and it all just snowballs about being good for some and not so good for others. It's all very frustrating.