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Post by gentu on Jan 24, 2023 20:35:32 GMT
Can we trust our institutions any more ? I have been pretty naive for most of my life, trusting the NHS, The Constabulary, the Educational system etc ... to help protect us from anarchy, to care and look after and give us their best. It appears to be more complicated though, because within ANY organisation you're going to get Good and Bad people/factions and scum rises to the top as well as cream. Came across this interview with a whitleblower who was protecting a BABY ffs, from being taken from its parent ... it's almost beyond belief what happened to the whitleblower after this ... in this country ... in the North of England ... scares the shit out of me that we're all a hairs breadth away from torture and death. Better to know about the devil you might meet, forwarned may be a little forarmed - hope I never get anywhere near it - don't think I'd have the strength or the knowledge to stay sane ... but it seems thousands are already right in the middle of it ... bless them and keep them ... soundcloud.com/ukcolumn/dispatches-from-the-front-britains-psychiatric-gulag/sets
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Post by givingitsomethought on Jan 26, 2023 19:26:24 GMT
My answer is no, Gentu, we can't. I've had a lot of contact with the public sector over the last twenty years, primarily because of health problems (my son mostly, although I've some of my own as well). There are good people working in the public sector, in all areas, and much of what is provided does what it needs to, in my opinion. But it's also a real breeding ground for abusive types in all their forms - whether it's the very obvious stuff that makes the papers like coppers being done for rape and care workers beating elderly patients up, through to the sort of stuff I've experienced a lot - being lied to and lied about, procedures not being followed, complaints being used as a whitewashing exercise, records being altered, confidential information going to people it shouldn't, and so on. I got to a point where I recorded every conversation because we'd had so many situations where what was written down after a meeting bore no resemblance to what had actually taken place. So personally I have no faith in any of them. I still have to use them and, of late, we seem to have had better experiences, so hopefully my faith will be restored at some point. But much of what I've been through has done me a lot of damage, the worst being falsely accused of abusing my son when he was small. I fought them and I won, but the corruption and malpractice that went on was horrifying and despite my proving it all no action was taken against the two social workers involved. I had help from a couple of support groups at the time, I don't know if they still exist now, but the number of parents I spoke to during that time who'd been through similar and worse was terrifying. I had a similar experience with the police and I won't even start on that one, but suffice to say they seemed far more focused on protecting the man I reported than they did on investigating the offences committed. It's a shame. We should be able to trust, but human beings are what they are and I think there's a very fine line between care and control. Anywhere you have vulnerable people you'll get people who genuinely want to help, and people who genuinely want to do things they shouldn't. It's supposed to be a safety net but in my experience there are a lot of holes.
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Post by NomadCris on Jan 26, 2023 20:07:10 GMT
I think you can put pretty much all the blame of bad practice, negligence and abuse of procedures in most public services down to privatisation of those services or private companies buying the services and running them how they please with no oversight. Low standards low staff pay,minimal staff supervision or training and tight control of operating costs,minimal or zero management of care standards and a generally corrupt blinkered attitude of governing bodies.
Its why we have situations like in Doncaster where three care homes owned and run by a hedge fund have been forced into closure because of systematic abuse of residents. Most of the vulnerable care system is owned by hedge funds with no interest in care,its just money.The hedge fund in question specializes in gas and oil operations and no background whatsoever in health care.
Its why lots of children have mysteriously gone missing from a home office migrant centre.
The UK isnt trustworthy in general now,almost every aspect of it is run by people only interested in the money they can make from it and no accountability,whether private companies working to run publhc services or those employed in public services like the police,if things go wrong theres just obfuscation and lies.
We as an electorate have ourselves to blame though for electing into office the people who allow this to become normal practice and both Tory and Labour are as guilty. We have a media thats complicit and a dim population that takes more notice of gaslighting and dog whistles about populist issues than whats actually going on.
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