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Post by VanWoman84 on Sept 28, 2020 18:51:39 GMT
You are right graceomalley, why the nine thousand tuition fees if you could do open university for far less?
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Post by graceomalley on Sept 28, 2020 19:00:15 GMT
A lot of students iv heard on the radio chat shows have said they d have done better at home as they re doing on line and book work,so theres no chance for on the ball questions and group chats,not sure how much my lads accommodation fees are,but theres not much left of his grant
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 9:30:46 GMT
First two fresher weeks at uni are a giant piss up anyway. Irrespective of that though they can pretty much everything online, it was a big bungling mistake sending the students to uni knowing what problems it would cause becsuse of covid.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Sept 30, 2020 9:51:40 GMT
Why would you pay regular uni prices for Open University though?
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Post by parrotandcrow on Sept 30, 2020 11:01:08 GMT
First two fresher weeks at uni are a giant piss up anyway. Irrespective of that though they can pretty much everything online, it was a big bungling mistake sending the students to uni knowing what problems it would cause becsuse of covid. It was not a mistake, the landlords wanted the rent from the students so they were sent back to uni and then immediately quarantined and told lessons online. You forget that Tories are the rentier class.
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 11:09:45 GMT
I said a few days back- admittedly cynically- that theyd been told to go to uni so theyd be locked down and conveniently taken out of circulation..i still believe that's the truth of it, but theres so much daily bungling on Covid you have to give them the credit for it.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Sept 30, 2020 11:11:35 GMT
I agree with you parrotandcrow, money. The same for the universities. They are smarting from the loss of foreign students. They can' 'afford' to reduce or refund tuition fees.
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 11:17:19 GMT
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 11:19:28 GMT
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Post by parrotandcrow on Sept 30, 2020 11:37:14 GMT
Youngsters are also the people most likely to organise and involve themselves in protests.
Covid allows you to go to work, school and pubs, but not to gather in public, or even in private. It comes out to play after ten pm seemingly, when conveniently you've spent your money for the evening.
All the measures for keeping folk and the NHS "safe" appear to be social control, nothing more.
Interestingly, I was watching Australian mainstream news last night, and the newscaster was talking about how they needed to look at was was happening in Europe, and especially the UK.
He pointed out that there is a huge surge in cases, but people are no longer dying from it. Obviously some will still do so, as with any pandemic, but he said Australia could learn a lot from how to deal with this virus from us.
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 11:48:58 GMT
Australia needs no lessons from the UK on corrupt authoritarianism, if snything theyre just looking for more ideas on social control.
All these measures theyre using now when the virus is not a high mortality threat thst shoukd have been used in February when it was just points to the obvious conclusion that its all about taking advantage of the situation for stifling protest and imposing social control especially since in 3 months time we've got the added chaos of Brexit kicking in.
Theyve half the population to death an into submission and locking up the rest.
We're watching democracy (what bit there is in the UK) ebb away and we're just letting it happen. They make big noise about Russia being run by authoritarian politicians and corrupt businessmen but its no different here.
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Post by lonewolf on Sept 30, 2020 12:07:12 GMT
rubbish, these covid rules are only valid for 6 months and once a covid vaccine is available there will be no need for these rules. as for politicians, unlike Russia we can vote these people out every 5 years. as for Brexit that was a majority decision, if anyone dosent like it they are free to go and live in the EU. if Labour and its Marxist principles had won the last election THEN you would have seen what communism and loss of Democracy is all about.
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Post by parrotandcrow on Sept 30, 2020 12:14:43 GMT
I fully understand that Australia is very much under the thumb of a right wing govt, same as here, but the newscaster was actually saying that our social control measures, such ad they are, are pointless.
Over the last few decades I have seen various segments of society demonised as a method of spreading fear. Divide and conquer is the ruling classes method of control.
The poor, (benefit cheats) the disabled (benefit cheats) single parents - though only if they are women, (benefit cheats) the unemployed (benefit cheats) anybody who is not white (terrorists/illegal immigrants) muslims (terrorists). We've managed to wage a "war on terror" which is a challenge as most of the fear and terror comes from our own government, but they are very good at taking away our rights to protect us against "them" whoever "them" is at a given moment.
The young have always been painted as scary, "feral youths" do . . . and the like.
Now we have something that works even better than the war on terror, which was always an ephemeral target.
We have a virus which has been heavily publicised, "Save our NHS" is the cry, and this has resulted in it being virtually impossible to get treatment, even tests for anything that isn't covid, leading to people dying of many preventable conditions, whether cancer, heart disease, diabetes, whatever. The "surplus deaths" are written off as covid, and undoubtedly some are, which further muddies the water. However, it has been very easy while we are fighting this invisible enemy to finish selling off the NHS.
Racism is so built-in to our society that we don't even see it when it is stinking right under our noses. The only people who are never singled out as our current enemy, are the ones at the top, the utterly corrupt government and their donors to whom this is all an end plan.
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Post by NomadCris on Sept 30, 2020 12:18:58 GMT
rubbish, these covid rules are only valid for 6 months and once a covid vaccine is available there will be no need for these rules. as for politicians, unlike Russia we can vote these people out every 5 years. as for Brexit that was a majority decision, if anyone dosent like it they are free to go and live in the EU. if Labour and its Marxist principles had won the last election THEN you would have seen what communism and loss of Democracy is all about. The coronavirus laws apply for 2 years and open for review at 6 month intervals.A vaccine is most probably years away. Parliament gave away your personal rights when it voted for the coronavirus act,it allows the government to do as it pleases,thats why a lot of Tories are now rebelling. You can vote for who you like here,you still get the exact same people pulling the strings. As for Brexit i dont care even if i dont like it much,the thing has been voted for and enacted so we have to live with it but its perfectly obvious its going plunge the UK into a bigger mess at tbis moment in time when its already collapsing with the Covid issue. If i could move to the EU i would but unless my residency application to Italy is successful my chances of moving and living there has been cut off by Brexit. If you want to live in your parochial little englander right wing bubble from yesteryear thats entirely your right. Im only interested in the fucked up mess the younger generation including my kids are going to inherit and have to live with.
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Post by parrotandcrow on Sept 30, 2020 12:22:18 GMT
P.S. Sorry, I appear to have come over all political. I'm going to have a cup of tea and take my dogs out for a walk.
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