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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 10:05:10 GMT
Delivery drivers do what can be a very difficult job , and I have every sympathy for the pressure they are under , and for 25 years I did door step pick ups which are pretty much the same thing for the purpose of my rant . It also could be applied to larger vehicle drivers generaly . WHY DO YOU DRIVE INTO A SITUATION THAT YOU CANNOT EASILY REVERSE OUT OFF AND IT WAS BLOODY OBVIOUS WHAT YOU ARE GETTING YOUR SELF INTO WHILE YOU WERE DOING IT!!!! Our drive is only about 100 metres long , but it is very steep , narrow , fence one side, and bushes the other with a sharp bend . There is very restricted turning at the house end and that needs 4x4 in the wet as its steep and muddy. There is a gate at the road end ,so drivers have to stop to open it . At night there is no lighting so it is very dark. When it is light it can take a bad driver 5 minutes to reverse back up it, and at night , bad driver in large van good luck with that one ,thats your shcedule taken a hit . And then the ones that attempt the turn and get stuck , like proper stuck . I guess its worse this rime of year as it gets dark so early , but what has happened to common sense . I never assume there will be some where to turn round .
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Post by bigbear67 on Dec 21, 2018 10:13:27 GMT
Suppose if you had a van full of parcels & each one needed a 100yd walk each way you wouldn't get much done. A lot of deliveries offer "roadside delivery only" now because of awkward drops. Plus, this time of year anybody with a license seems to be drafted in for the rush, so maybe standards could be down a tad....
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Post by VanWoman84 on Dec 21, 2018 10:42:57 GMT
Once a bad driver always a bad driver! That said, we would have to be on the brink of not being able to pay for insurance before going back to multi drop. Been there, done that, was bad enough in the late 80s. It's much worse now, with companies putting more and more on each van, like if a driver has more to do they will do more!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 12:46:21 GMT
I fully understand their work load , as I have been their my self but getting your van so jammed in someones drive you are incapable of moving it is not good . If I had not been in they might of been there still
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Post by VanWoman84 on Dec 21, 2018 13:05:23 GMT
Like I said, once a bad driver always a bad driver. Wouldn't you get out and have a look? I would, and I do!
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 21, 2018 13:12:31 GMT
I used to have to get emergency vehicles into some right stupid places,similarly artics into business premises and farms built for 60's delivery vans.Ive never got stuck.People just dont use common sense and a lot are just as useless behind the wheel as they are on two legs.
Putting a sign on the gate 'unsuitable for vans and large delivery vehicles' might help the unintelligent to leave the van at the roadside.
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 21, 2018 13:26:52 GMT
I waited three days this week because a certain large well known delivery company had a parcel for me correctly addressed as per Royal Mail database because theres no street in the address and sitting in their regional depot waiting for correct address!
Its just a farm, village name, postcode on the postcode database and has been for decades. Everyone manages to get here but not this company.
It took several emails and phone calls and me eventually sending them a googlemaps link (which they could have found themselves by entering the postcode) to get it delivered and even then they marked it as undeliverable as they claimed no one was about to sign for it.I actually was in the farm yard with farmer at the time they marked as having been here. After complaining they came back at 4:30 the same day.
They said it wasnt on satnav so i said how did your company manage for the decades before GPS satellites and satnav were invented! No answer.they said 'address was incomplete' no it isnt,how do you manage in Scotland where you have just a county, village name and a house number as is often the case? No answer.
Fucking useless is what some of these people are.How they would manage like we used to,delivering stuff across the UK and Europe and finding addresses with just a large scale paper map I dont know.
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Post by offgrid hero on Dec 21, 2018 13:50:23 GMT
They deliver when it suits them,CCTV is the answer for lying drivers that say "tried to deliver but no one was in and couldn't leave card because I've run out", annoying when you've arranged it around being there.
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 21, 2018 14:12:25 GMT
Used to regularly get that off post office, a card shoved through door 'sorry that you were not in' as you watch them running up the path to their van because you didnt open the door as soon as their finger left the door bell and youre then expected to go collect it from their sorting office miles away. Fuck that,i used be straight on the phone to complain and postman would be back the next day ranting at me moaning at post office so id ring the post office and complain about the ranting.Eventually he got the message, dont piss me off.Im not an unreasonable person but i hate being lied to or people making zero effort at their job and making excuses for not doing it properly.
Had a stand in delivery driver turn up one afternoon with a sack of dog food that was a regular monthly order. He pulled the sack out of the van and threw the smashed package box and package straps on the floor with it. "Thats how it came mate"
So i wrote on the delivery sheet 'damaged and not in packaging so returned' picked it all up and threw it all back in his van.
He said youve signed for that.I said nope, read the fucking sheet and fuck off.
He never delivered my order again.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Dec 21, 2018 18:16:00 GMT
It's 12 miles to my nearest sorting office, about the same or a few miles more for a couple of other deliverers and they don't like me turning up as it's face to face but the post orifice (when my regular good postie is off) will now leave (as per written instruction at the depot) at a postoffice in the next village and the others have learned to phone me. Yodel have a great black lad who regularly drops my dogfood sacks off but some of their Asian drivers are shit. Bottom line is that they have a load to get round and it's easy to say 'not in' or 'delivery refused' than to find the house.
I buy mostly off the net as it's some 20 miles to the nearest decent shopping centre and I get really pissed off waiting in for deliveries that fail to appear.
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 21, 2018 18:36:57 GMT
About the same here,not many options out in the sticks but some of the drivers just dont want the job and you can tell. The driver who threw my dog food and packaging out was an obnoxious white kid and subcon for yodel. All the stuff in his van was smashed and he was walking about on the parcels. PO arent much better, used to drive trunking artics for them from the regional hub and ive watched from the canteen while ive been on break as theyve played football with packages across the loading bay. Tedious jobs they may be but they get paid ok and if they dont like the job they can piss off and let someone else do it properly.
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Post by polymoog on Dec 23, 2018 9:13:54 GMT
I buy and sell a lot of stuff online so end up dealing with most of the courier firms. Yodel are the worst by far in my opinion and once left a box with 3 sacks of cat litter on my door step and dropped it so that all the bags had split and needless to say cat litter was everywhere for days after.
i use DPD to send large items out. they still get busted but at least they pay out on a claim - try that with Hermes!
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Post by VanWoman84 on Dec 23, 2018 13:29:13 GMT
Oh yes, because ordering off the internet is soooo convenient....
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 23, 2018 19:50:03 GMT
To be fair i buy almost all my stuff except food off the internet,have done for 20 years especially when i ran a business both buying and selling and its rare i get/got any issues. If the package is damaged i wont accept delivery- end of.If theyve left it without signature theyll be back to collect it I guarantee that.
The company i had an issue with was one of the large American couriers and in the past has been with sub contractors for Yodel or Hermes or with Parcel Force.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Dec 23, 2018 20:06:45 GMT
Chinese postal sorting office FFS.
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