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Post by danann on Feb 11, 2020 18:50:03 GMT
Just heard that there is NO VACCINE at moment as they STILL DONT UNDERSTAND IT!!! And Also they say it’s MORE like SARRS than Flu Type Normal Coronovirus because it’s MUTATED ... and because The Normal Strain Of Coronovirus affects badly and kills only usually Peeps who are Elderley/Breathing Peoblems/Breathing Deseases Etc ... THIS NEW STRAIN They Now Say DOESNT !! It has been found the people who are very bad and have died have been people sadly with Diabetis and Heart Issues And NOT LUNG/BREATHING ISSUES!!! Because This NEW STRAIN Targets Different Organs Etc And Works Differently than the normal type of Coronovirus !!
So that’s why NOW they are RE-NAMING IT “CORVI-19”. Yep !!!! And in my finding ANYTHING that ENDS with NUMBERS when it comes to Viruses and Diseases “IS DEFO NOT A GOOD SIGN !!!!
So YUP The Public is DEFO NOT being told the FULL TRUTH !! But as we all know “THATS NOTHING NEW !!
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 12, 2020 0:37:48 GMT
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Post by fenrisulfr on Feb 12, 2020 6:37:49 GMT
Well, we're on the 28 Days Later scenario, it's going to be the 28 Weeks Later scenario that will be the question.
We're an island and still have the remains of a coastal defence BUT no guts to protect ourselves as the damn boat illegals already show. If we did ever have to make some serious border health checks, the illegals are the ones who'll bring it in never mind what the 3rd world legals already bring in especially the 'bush meat brigade' if the origin of this new virus is true.
I've got grave doubts on anything put out by any government as even the BBC is used to manipulate the gullible. The supercarrier who is getting better, if he is the 'real one', I question why the medics are wearing virtual nbc suits for a soddin flu bug.
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 12, 2020 7:24:34 GMT
Well, we're on the 28 Days Later scenario, it's going to be the 28 Weeks Later scenario that will be the question.
We're an island and still have the remains of a coastal defence BUT no guts to protect ourselves as the damn boat illegals already show. If we did ever have to make some serious border health checks, the illegals are the ones who'll bring it in never mind what the 3rd world legals already bring in especially the 'bush meat brigade' if the origin of this new virus is true. I've got grave doubts on anything put out by any government as even the BBC is used to manipulate the gullible. The supercarrier who is getting better, if he is the 'real one', I question why the medics are wearing virtual nbc suits for a soddin flu bug.
Apart from the social disruption potential i think the biggest risk is its ability to mutate.It is afterall a mutation that crossed the species barrier.Thats most likely the reason for the hyper cautious treatment.We just dont know what the true state is in China. The more hosts it is exposed to increases the risk it could mutate into a more deadly pathogen and become a pneumonic plague.Its already known its a SARS virus known to affect heart tissue as well as cause pneumonia (what SARS does) and a threat to old young and vulnerable people but a 30 year old fit doctor kind of bucked the trend so its clearly not as benign as the official projection. Its no good on the one hand WHO saying people shouldnt panic and should quit rumour mongering and fake news manufacture and on the other hand issuing global emergency notices and saying 60% of the global population could eventually be affected and a vaccine is 18 months away. Its been handled terribly and its already escaped into the wider world so its about time they quit lying and started telling people the truth and forewarning them how to sensibly protect themselves. Its more likely to spread via normal passenger air travel than any illegals entry or smuggling. Thats how the 'supercarrier' brought it here from China and by stopping off on holiday in the French alps. Theres a luxury cruise ship in quarantine with multiple cases on board and that wasnt caused by illegal entry or smuggling of dubious foodstuffs. Almost all of the global infections outside of China have spread via normal air travel and not from illegal activity. Theres no point in pointing fingers at who is to blame and who took it where or brought it here, we need to accept its got out into the wider world,already too late to stop it and we all need to know how to deal with it on a practical level.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Feb 12, 2020 8:23:36 GMT
Facts and transparency are required so that we can at least try and prepare for it when it hits and endeavour to ride it out at home. There will be little point in going to A&Es as they will just sink under pressure-totally when you look at the number of wasters who go there now, the growing wave of infected would be the end of the system as we know it.
It may never happen but we do need honesty from above whichever way it goes.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Feb 12, 2020 8:31:23 GMT
I don't know how accurate this site is but it makes scary reading when you look closely at the ratios then think about the 'unrecorded' cases and lies told. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 12, 2020 8:31:52 GMT
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Post by fenrisulfr on Feb 12, 2020 9:07:19 GMT
My last link if memory is right goes through to others but one thing of interest is peeps got infected on 12th floor in a Hong Kong towerblock after others at the bottom became ill, the virus is believed to have gone airborne and travelled up the soil pipe system which wasn't effectively sealed. That link also is worrying on the amount who recover. More info needed there!
A seperate thread on facts would be helpful in the longrun if or should I say when this emerges fully.
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 12, 2020 9:19:42 GMT
The virus is beleived to be airborne so it can travel anywhere so air con ducting or ventilation,lift shafts etc could be a method of movement in that sutuation or just person to person.People did not know they were infected until some time later.
Ive done a separate thread.
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Post by fenrisulfr on Feb 12, 2020 12:13:56 GMT
Coronavirus latest: China seizes hospitals and hotels to fight disease. (Financial Times)
Was wondering how they'd intern so many. Just trying to imagine how the tossers in the UK will kick-up if it happens here.
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Post by NomadCris on Feb 12, 2020 13:04:01 GMT
Cant read it, subscription required.
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Post by valdez on Feb 12, 2020 22:18:44 GMT
HS2 as got the go ahead over budget well still going ahead somebody has had a good drink out of this
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Post by bernie on Feb 12, 2020 23:16:02 GMT
There is no way to stop a virus in reality, its like trying to piss on a forest fire. Measures might slow it down but if we are to contain it we have to get it right EVERY time. The virus only has to get it right once and its out.
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Post by danann on Feb 13, 2020 0:08:11 GMT
Heard that on the cruise ship one of the Doctor/Helper/Staff who was “Bio Suited And Booted And Gloved And Masked Etc” has Caught The Virus!!!! So now they are trying to Workout how they got it When Was Wearing All That And Supposed To Be Protected !!! So they baffled !!
But maybe YES!! Human error or mistake !!! They made !! OR But Maybe NOT !! As to be honest “Who Truly Knows!!
As one momentbthey say “it attacks the weak and elderley and breathing issues with people !!! Giving Pheumonia Etc Then the next minute they say “No Its Not !! It’s attacking Worst peeps With “Heart Conditions And Disbeties”” !!! Soooo “Who Truly Knows As We Are Not Being Told “THE TRUTH ANYWAYS” ... only time of times will tell anyway !
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Post by lika on Feb 13, 2020 1:04:36 GMT
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