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Post by VanWoman84 on Mar 30, 2020 13:33:01 GMT
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Post by bigbear67 on Apr 2, 2020 6:55:58 GMT
What's the point? The previous post says hospital admin managers are refusing to accept them if they are donated....
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Post by danann on Apr 2, 2020 8:36:27 GMT
I think that is a great and lovely idea VanWoman84 and would of been great to think of making scrubs fir our NHS people But Sadly it is true that they cannot accept them due to Contamination and Keeping Sterile Issues they are saying But they are thanking people for the Kind Thought Of wanting to help . So I think the BEST Thing we All Can Do And the U.K. Peeps Can Do to help our NHS at the moment is “Stay At Home” which we are doing and a lot of the U.K. peeps are doing BUT sadly there are still Uncaring Stupid Peeps out there who are not at the moment sadly
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 2, 2020 10:29:15 GMT
Where was this danann? I just checked the Facebook group and didn't see anything.
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Post by danann on Apr 2, 2020 19:40:44 GMT
Where was this danann ? I just checked the Facebook group and didn't see anything. In truth I cannot remember as it popped up about helping out nhs making ppe supplies about people and communities all coming together to help the nhs and Carers Etc ,.. i think it might of bern Huff post OR my local newspapers etc So if I find it I will post it for you xx
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 2, 2020 19:53:37 GMT
Its not a contamination issue,all scrubs are laundered at 60C prior to use anyway,regardless where they come from.
There was an issue over some hospital admin managers refusing donated scrubs but i think most of the problems are being sorted out.
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Post by danann on Apr 2, 2020 23:38:54 GMT
Where was this danann ? I just checked the Facebook group and didn't see anything. Just doubled check to make sure I was understanding right VanWoman84 and yes it was down to certain Admins similar to what NomadCris said where as what I read was in Certain Hospitals BUT NOT ALL didn’t said not allowed etc over the non use of handmade scrubs ... So in a way VanWoman84 I did misunderstand and as far as I believe as long as it’s done through something like this the For The Love Of Scrubs And/Or where they use certain materials etc and stick to designs etc it’s fine thankfully so Sew Away hehehehe And Be very happy it is all ok and allowed as I think it’s a Great Way snd Great Idea And Great Thing To Do ... Even Through I also thinks it Be Sooo Sad And Sooo Wrong that To Get the Scrubs And Hospital Clothing our great NHS Nurses And Doctors and All NHS frontline workers that they have had to make them themselves with the help of community and people from all over as they SHOULD HAVE THEN IN THR FIRST PLACE !! It’s just terrible truly terrible what our Great NHS People have to do just to get decent Scrubbs /Clothing/Masks/Gloves Etc Etc Etc it’s heartbreaking and sooo unfair and mind boggling it truly is
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 3, 2020 9:29:35 GMT
danann I agree, it is really sad that the public have to make scrubs and there isn't a sufficient supply of them already.
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Post by bernie on Apr 6, 2020 10:42:53 GMT
There appears to be no shortage of equpments available to buy from medical suppliers. Hospital staff are buying their own hats etc on the internet to take into work
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Post by bigbear67 on Apr 6, 2020 10:57:41 GMT
Find that offensive Bernie, these people risk their lives daily to protect & save us & have to buy their own ppe while waste of space fucking MPs are all on full pay plus expenses for making a bollocks of this thing from start to finish! Hats off to our health workers, it embarrasses me to hear they're not getting the recognition they deserve...
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Post by bernie on Apr 6, 2020 11:12:17 GMT
Find that offensive Bernie, these people risk their lives daily to protect & save us & have to buy their own ppe while waste of space fucking MPs are all on full pay plus expenses for making a bollocks of this thing from start to finish! Hats off to our health workers, it embarrasses me to hear they're not getting the recognition they deserve... I can remember when soldiers had to buy a lot of their own kit
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 6, 2020 11:47:16 GMT
In the UK its the employers legal responsibility under H&S to provide -at the employers own cost-all PPE required by an employee to perform his or her job,it has to be of an apprived certified standard and they have to provide certified training in its correct use. No ifs buts or maybe's or anecdotal historical reference.
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Post by boaty on Apr 6, 2020 23:12:27 GMT
Imagine how bad it would be if Boris hadn't got that extra £350 million a week for the NHS from Brexit. Oh, wait, he didn't, it was all lies, silly me.
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Post by valdez on Apr 8, 2020 21:37:52 GMT
they should put the health ministers and hospital managers with the front line workers till they get all the equipment they need
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Post by bernie on Apr 10, 2020 5:36:17 GMT
I ordered some face masks last week and they came yesterday. They look identical to the ones my dentist wears, blue fabric. No shortage from that source I could have bought as many as I wanted. I bought a couple of boxes of rubber gloves too.
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I shall give you an example of scale for illustration, the Scottish NHS normally buy c.30,000 disposable masks per month which has been sufficient for everything they have ever done up to this crisis. In response to coronavirus they placed an order for c.15,000,000. In what world of contingency planning do you think that sort of uptick would ever equate to reasonable surplus before the event?
You talk about planning as though it is a simple paper exercise without any apparent concept of the scale of what it means in practical terms throughout an extremely long and often global supply chain that has come under unprecedented pressure throughout its length, for every country. Reference Trump's comments to 3M recently.
The Nightingale hospital in Scotland will have 2 tons of laundry every single day, that is what is being planned for and needs to be factored in to the supply chain and with a 4 day turnaround on laundry that means c.22 tons of bed linen that had to be sourced on demand because in no reasonable contingency planning scenario would the NHS plan for an uptick of 1000 beds within a 2 week window. 2 tons of extra laundry capacity every day needs to be found somewhere and that supply chain doesn't have that sort of overhead in capacity either.
All of that is relatively trivial and just a tiny element of what is required, but it is so easy to throw rocks at how tardy or rubbish the organisation has been based on what sensation seeking journalists or attention hungry commentators might say.
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