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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 9:24:51 GMT
I think a lot would depend on where you were being a hermit , say up in the Blue Mountains of Jamaica in lush forest with a nice cabin would be better than a run down beach hut in Shoeburyness . Desert island might be good , but you would not want to get poorly . Im sure its perfectly acceptable to be a hermit in a beach hut in Shoeburyness if one chose. Hermits are hermits,the location is irrelevant. I have to say , having lived near Shoeburyness, it would make a poor choice regardless off accomodation . To many mopedy knifers, MOD ordanance range making a din , an ugly gasometer , and squaddies looking for a punch up and holiday makers . Surly a hermit is seeking tranquility.
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 4, 2019 9:32:06 GMT
To be honest apart from the ordnance range its not much different to most cities š Plenty of hermits live in shitty tower blocks and sink estates,probably far more than live in caves in Nepal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 9:35:47 GMT
You have dashed my romantic notions of hermitism ;(
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 4, 2019 9:40:35 GMT
I had romantic notions of hippies once...šÆ
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Post by fenrisulfr on Dec 4, 2019 10:04:27 GMT
Hi all I kind of feel like I've been pushed into being a hermit, rather than choosing to be one. I found as my son got older and his needs increased (because of his health problems) more and more people vanished from my life. Most people I knew weren't willing or able to visit or keep in touch by phone, so the friendships died off. I've found that I'm much more picky about who I spend my time with as I get older and I've found some people very draining, so I've cut down on time with them, which also makes the friendship die off. I've also found that my tolerance for drama and bullshit is very limited now, so that tends to keep me at arm's length from some. Plus I've found I've less and less in common with people as the years have gone on. Experiences are different - my friends were applying for promotions and organising holidays while I was applying for benefits and arranging the next round of hospital appointments or the next Tribunal hearing while we struggled to get whatever it was that we were trying to get. So I found it harder to be interested in other people's tales of where they were going and what they were doing and that pushed people away as well. And all of that has made me reluctant to try to make new friends, because I assume now at some point they won't be around anymore and it makes getting the energy up to put the effort in all too much Lol. So I think I would be happy to be around more people (or a few people more often) but they need to be on a different sort of wave length and I don't find that very often. Or perhaps I do but I'm too tired to notice. Lol. I don't think it's doing my health much good. My head is a messy place to be a lot of the time. But equally I find I can meet a couple of people for lunch and after an hour I'm wishing I was at home with my book or the telly on. So maybe not Yes i agree people can be pushed by circumstances into hermit like lifestyle. Its very easy to fall outside of mainstream acceptability and friends or family to lose interest or comprehension of you to the point you become isolated or see no point in association with them. You often find people with disability or mental illness pushed into a hermit like existence. Its also understandable why people choose to live that way,its simply easier. Partly why i prefer to. Just looking in the mirror. When the wife became ill so called friends dropped away but over the years my old 'real' friends have all karked it and as a carer over some 19 yrs never really made new ones locally but the furry kids have always been on tap and give me some sort of ordered existance. I don't do visitors so nobody crosses my threshold which doesn't really bother me as I live in a state of organised chaos.
Thought about dropping all and going for a wood but despite what peeps say you cannot drop out of the system nowadays unless you've got your own island and a lifetime store of provisions but you then need good health or a means of suicide if otherwise. For a wood to hide in you'll need no neighbours or impossible access to keep out snoopers who will report you but you cannot escape aerial snooping via satellite or drone and then your world collapses. The stress of hiding or waiting for that day just makes that route not worthwhile.
As stands we are all part of the system with a number and there is no escaping that. We need food, clothes and bigbrother will always have tabs on us financially whether it's giving us money or taking it from us. Living as a recluse is managable but thoughts do wander for some company.
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Post by NomadCris on Dec 4, 2019 10:12:19 GMT
I know,exactly the same. I really envy the folks who live solitary isolated lives in Alaska,many of them in the old age. If only i was 40 years younger.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Dec 4, 2019 11:44:45 GMT
fenrisulfr the thing about looking over your shoulder all the time is the one thing that puts me off buying my own land.
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Post by givingitsomethought on Dec 4, 2019 12:52:36 GMT
fenrisulfr the thing about looking over your shoulder all the time is the one thing that puts me off buying my own land.
Vannie we're expecting you to womble your own land Lol xx
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Post by givingitsomethought on Dec 4, 2019 13:03:02 GMT
Yes i agree people can be pushed by circumstances into hermit like lifestyle. Its very easy to fall outside of mainstream acceptability and friends or family to lose interest or comprehension of you to the point you become isolated or see no point in association with them. You often find people with disability or mental illness pushed into a hermit like existence. Its also understandable why people choose to live that way,its simply easier. Partly why i prefer to. Just looking in the mirror. When the wife became ill so called friends dropped away but over the years my old 'real' friends have all karked it and as a carer over some 19 yrs never really made new ones locally but the furry kids have always been on tap and give me some sort of ordered existance. I don't do visitors so nobody crosses my threshold which doesn't really bother me as I live in a state of organised chaos.
Thought about dropping all and going for a wood but despite what peeps say you cannot drop out of the system nowadays unless you've got your own island and a lifetime store of provisions but you then need good health or a means of suicide if otherwise. For a wood to hide in you'll need no neighbours or impossible access to keep out snoopers who will report you but you cannot escape aerial snooping via satellite or drone and then your world collapses. The stress of hiding or waiting for that day just makes that route not worthwhile.
As stands we are all part of the system with a number and there is no escaping that. We need food, clothes and bigbrother will always have tabs on us financially whether it's giving us money or taking it from us. Living as a recluse is managable but thoughts do wander for some company.
The vanishing friends thing is really hard to cope with. When your time is taken up either looking after someone who's poorly or managing your health if it's you with the health problems it's really hard to keep up with friends who aren't doing either. I found most of mine weren't willing to make any effort and I found it quite baffling that people who'd spent time with me regularly for many years (30 odd, in one case) weren't at all fussed about never seeing me again. I only spend time with people if I like them so I'd want to keep seeing them whatever their situation. It's another baffling aspect of human nature. Yes, doing it completely alone and off grid would be a lot of hard work, I think - certainly more than I could manage. The winter alone is enough to put me off lol. There are lots of aspects of the system and modern living that I'm very happy with, I think with me it's more people who are the problem I guess our experiences shape us in different ways and make different things important and perhaps if your situation is a less usual one fewer people fall into your circle of shared experience? I can remember once being with someone whose son was dying - awful situation and the family were being so stoical and really focusing on giving him the best life they could. It's very humbling to be around a situation like that and it really did something to me. The next day I was with a friend who was stressing about the fact she couldn't find a handbag to match the shoes she was wearing to a wedding the following weekend and the two situations were just so disparate, I kind of remember it as a moment when I feel I 'dropped out' and just couldn't really connect to some people and situations anymore, even if I wanted to. Maybe the benefit of the nomadic lifestyle is being able to move on when you disconnect from the people around you and go and seek out others? Or hide from them lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 18:00:35 GMT
givingitsomethought and fenrisulfr It would be easy for me to say, "Well with friends like that they weren't much of a loss", but the reality is that you still end up without anybody to talk to. I'm sorry that you find yourselves in that situation and sincerely hope that you meet and befriend new folk. This place is good to come and talk to folk, but real life conversation is even better.
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Post by givingitsomethought on Dec 5, 2019 9:05:37 GMT
givingitsomethought and fenrisulfr It would be easy for me to say, "Well with friends like that they weren't much of a loss", but the reality is that you still end up without anybody to talk to. I'm sorry that you find yourselves in that situation and sincerely hope that you meet and befriend new folk. This place is good to come and talk to folk, but real life conversation is even better. Corvus, it is true that you haven't lost much when you find out they're fair weather friends but yes, it's very hard to discover that people you love and care about - and in many cases have run around after over the years and helped through difficult situations - think so little of you that even picking the phone up once or twice a year is too much effort for them. It's especially hard to discover that about them at a time when you really need them as well One of life's little jokes, I think. It's understandable if your situation is impacting on them in a very negative way - I've had friendships that I've had to call time on because their situation was spilling into my life. One friend in particular had a very bad heroin habit and a string of abusive boyfriends. I had tried to help her out for years, both with the drugs and the dodgy men, but she seemed to be stuck in that cycle and I didn't want to stay in it with her so I walked away. I still feel very bad about that and I still miss her but it was affecting my health and I was scared that one of her nutjob boyfriends would turn up at my house one day. So I could understand it if my situation were creating that sort of problem for other people but when all you need is someone just picking the phone up to ask how you're doing it is hard when most of them don't. On a positive note I should say I have several friends who have always kept in contact, even if it's just by text, so they've kept me going. It's not all doom and gloom. And yes, some lovely peeps on the internet and some very kind and friendly strangers when you're out and about. And the cat Lol. There are lots of people worse off. Years ago (during the rave years!) a friend and I used to say, in a jokey way, that the country should be divided up so that the same type of people all live together - the party animals in one place, the corporate type people in another, the ones who like their front lawns perfect in another, and so on. So that like minded folk can be together and not annoy the other people who don't think the same way. It was always said as a joke, but it does strike me now that I know and have met some really lovely people but they live so far away actually spending time with them is really difficult. If we all lived in the same town it would be amazing More incentive for me to get a van together so I can wander about a bit more easily Lol x
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Post by danann on Dec 5, 2019 10:33:08 GMT
Peeps already seem to believe and seem to think Iām a Hermit hahaha
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Post by cricket on Dec 5, 2019 11:36:37 GMT
fenrisulfr the thing about looking over your shoulder all the time is the one thing that puts me off buying my own land. Maybe that would be more tolerable than looking over your shoulder and having all the awful unbelievable crap you are getting now from all quarters.Your resilience living where you are now is incredible.Its always easier when you have just one suitcase,its harder to relocate when you have animals and lots of things to consider.My life was far more flexible when I had nothing.I have found that things,be it a house, land,animals,possessions slow the mobility considerably.Property prices are predicted to plummet after Brexit.There will be many more opportunities for those looking for a place in a position to act.
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Post by cricket on Dec 5, 2019 11:40:52 GMT
Being a hermit means you dont have to put up with someones crap behaviour just because you are the only available target.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 11:47:32 GMT
Being a hermit you have no one else to blame other than for the reason you became a hermit maybe ?
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