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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 26, 2019 11:17:02 GMT
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Post by givingitsomethought on Oct 26, 2019 12:08:07 GMT
It's appalling, just more and more people being forced into working for less one way or another. A friend of mine was made redundant recently and the staff that stayed on are doing the same amount of work, but with fewer people, so they're all working harder for the same money, plus the pension contribution has been reduced so effectively it's a pay cut in the longer term. It's not always possible to just get another job either. Terrible situation for all of them.
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Post by bernie on Oct 26, 2019 13:07:29 GMT
It's happening everywhere, they used to call them "mac" jobs because McD were the first employer to introduce screw you contracts for their staff, now it's the norm
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 26, 2019 13:14:42 GMT
No wonder so many people want to be self employed
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Post by bernie on Oct 26, 2019 13:27:11 GMT
No wonder so many people want to be self employed A lot of people have no choice, the companies will only 'employ' you on a self employed basis so they can avoid all the employers obligations. People like parcel delivery, couriers etc only work for one company so they are not legally self employed it's just an evasion tactic to deny them their rights |
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Post by bigbear67 on Oct 26, 2019 13:39:03 GMT
Bet theres no fuckin redundancies in Westminster...😡
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 26, 2019 13:47:16 GMT
Very true bernie but I was talking about the many people that choose to be self employed. |
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Post by bernie on Oct 26, 2019 17:56:27 GMT
Bet theres no fuckin redundancies in Westminster...😡 There will be soon! Haha! |
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Post by bernie on Oct 26, 2019 18:01:55 GMT
Very true bernie but I was talking about the many people that choose to be self employed. Most of us are self employed, I am, and it has its benefits but for the average Joe Public it's a poor choice compared to holiday pay, sick pay, a pension and employee rights |
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Post by patchypete on Oct 26, 2019 18:28:47 GMT
Looks to me that the employees rights are getting less and less Bernie.
The tolpuddle martyrs must be turning in their graves.
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Post by bernie on Oct 27, 2019 9:18:48 GMT
Looks to me that the employees rights are getting less and less Bernie. The tolpuddle martyrs must be turning in their graves. Yes I agree the Gig economy is screwing everything |
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Post by bernie on Oct 27, 2019 9:49:40 GMT
The trouble is the way the benefits system operates there is a big pool of people who are only cash in hand.
And the Eastern Europeans are after fast money to take home and don't care about long term.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 27, 2019 10:00:32 GMT
I remember when a friend's son said he was on a zero hours contract and explained it to me. I honestly thought it couldn't be legal to be contracted to work no hours at all.
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Post by bernie on Oct 27, 2019 13:09:08 GMT
I remember when a friend's son said he was on a zero hours contract and explained it to me. I honestly thought it couldn't be legal to be contracted to work no hours at all. My step grandson worked for Toys r Us for 18 months at the one on Purley Way Croydon and he wasn't even on a zero hours contract. He was on 'no contract' if there is such a thing. He was a day temp. My brother in law works as a van driverfor a car parts motor factors on almost exactly the same deal. He has been doing it for about a year. There is a lot of jobs like that now |
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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 27, 2019 14:02:49 GMT
I thought it was illegal to have somebody work directly for you without giving them a contract. Even if it's zero hours, there must be a contract.
Not sure what agencies do or are allowed to do, I haven't worked for an agency.
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