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Post by valdez on Jul 17, 2019 21:15:46 GMT
i would like to think i would do the right thing good on you IC
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Post by cricket on Jul 17, 2019 21:50:10 GMT
I have been given 2 fake ten pound notes and one fake fiver in the same Morrisons shop now in change.I just use them in the same shop to be rid of them and because I am fed up of it.I have also made sure I always get a receipt in garages now after I saw the till person,put the money in his pocket.There is then less chance I will ever be accused of not paying with a receipt and if the owner is not the one on the till it ensures payments are going through the books and not into a thiefs pocket.I lost my purse with all my food money on a busy beach years ago and was amazed and very relived when someone handed it in.I did find out who it was and sent them a card to say thank you.
I geuss"doing the right thing" by showing exemplary moral purity is easier when the recepient is a good person.I saw a sorry sight today.An old grubby unshaven man huddled down outside a food shop in the rain with carrier bags and a back pack.So I went in the shop and got a pastie and a cake for him.The cashier asked if it was for the man.She then told me he has a place and money and does it frequently to get free food.So I ate it myself.Then I thought he was a sorry soul anyhow if thats all his life is.The cake was nice.I gave a begger food years ago and he told me to f off or give him money.
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Post by NomadCris on Jul 17, 2019 22:17:17 GMT
Its actually quite common for small independent petrol station owners to not put large notes in the till especially on evening and night shifts because of attempted cash snatches when the till is open.
Most stuff notes in a tube and push them into a safe behind the desk.Some ive seen stuffing them in their trousers.
The big chains are bristling with cameras so snatch robberies and staff thefts are not so common.
But its also the small independents that are the biggest risk of having your card skimmed so best pay cash and demand a receipt 'for VAT purposes'
I always ask for and get a receipt for absolutely everything I buy so i have proof of purchase and of my wearabouts should i ever need it.
As you say,its easy for the cashier at a small station to trouser 20 quid and claim a drive off and you've no evidence to prove you paid.
Its always nice to know there are actually honest people about too.
My friend from Australia lost her hand luggage with wallet and passport on a train in Rome while on holiday.
After a panic ridden couple of hours she got a call from a couple who'd found her luggage on the train and theyd gone back to Rome with it and they arranged to meet her with the station manager a few hours later and she got it all back intact.
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Post by cricket on Jul 18, 2019 10:49:10 GMT
While we are all debating "The right thing to do"who exactly dictates what is right or wrong?Is this a public image thing where maybe in order to appear a good person and accepted by our peer group we go along with "good"behaviour?The lead poster,long term lovely IC is clearly a very honest, moral ,karma driven person,but would any of us admit to kicking an aged person in the legs before making off with their pension ,when we are being scrutinised in the comparable light of a good person?Highly unlikely.I think we all have to find our own moral compass,however that is influenced,that enables acceptance and being a valued member of the society we wish to be accepted by.I treat others as I would wish to be, but trust is a variable thing.I left my purse once in the home of some lovely people trying to raise funds to get to Ireland.As I trusted them I did not hide my money.My money vanished as did they to Ireland.I would share my last crust with the needy.However if it meant feeding my child or them I would not.Maslow Hierarchy of Needs,I like that guy.If my need to survive was high,my morals would lower accordingly.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Jul 18, 2019 11:10:03 GMT
I treat others as I wish to be treated, with full awareness that many of the others won't uphold their end of the deal!
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Post by NomadCris on Jul 18, 2019 11:27:05 GMT
I do too,i think you have to take people at face value with some basic trust and humanity.
Not everyone is a shitbag.
Unfortunately it often turns out the biggest shitbags are family members or people we'd considered very good friends.
Ive always done what i felt right and helped people out,lent plenty of friends money, never to see it or them again.
I can be quite forgiving and let some of it wash over me and accept their need was probably greater than mine but i never ever claim to be a good person a goody goody or saintly or always adhere to my buddhist values, i can be pretty cold and ruthless bastard in retribution if i feel its warranted,as some people have learned.
I think the moral is treat all with respect and how you would like to be treated yourself,but be aware there are always karmic consequences if you abuse someones trust or treat them with disrespect.
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Post by givingitsomethought on Jul 20, 2019 10:35:47 GMT
While we are all debating "The right thing to do"who exactly dictates what is right or wrong?Is this a public image thing where maybe in order to appear a good person and accepted by our peer group we go along with "good"behaviour?The lead poster,long term lovely IC is clearly a very honest, moral ,karma driven person,but would any of us admit to kicking an aged person in the legs before making off with their pension ,when we are being scrutinised in the comparable light of a good person?Highly unlikely.I think we all have to find our own moral compass,however that is influenced,that enables acceptance and being a valued member of the society we wish to be accepted by.I treat others as I would wish to be, but trust is a variable thing.I left my purse once in the home of some lovely people trying to raise funds to get to Ireland.As I trusted them I did not hide my money.My money vanished as did they to Ireland.I would share my last crust with the needy.However if it meant feeding my child or them I would not.Maslow Hierarchy of Needs,I like that guy.If my need to survive was high,my morals would lower accordingly. I think that's very true, Cricket. I'll do 'the right thing' if I can but sometimes it just doesn't happen. With ICs example, if I noticed straight away it was too much change I'd give it back but if I was already thirty miles down the road before I realised I wouldn't drive back to return it. I'll always sort my own child out before someone else's, I think that would be true of most parents (doesn't mean I wouldn't help someone else's child but if mine and someone else's fell in a river, I'd get mine out first). I have assumed in the past that other people are like me but have learnt the hard way they aren't so I tend to have a blanket rule now of not lending money/babysitting/dog sitting/house sitting/buying something off someone without checking it properly and so on. I've a few friends that I trust implicitly but not many! It's horrible when you trust someone and they abuse that (as you mention with your purse running off to Ireland without you  ). |
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