orthio
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Post by orthio on Apr 24, 2019 17:03:36 GMT
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 24, 2019 18:42:25 GMT
Wow that's a real breakthrough.
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 25, 2019 15:17:19 GMT
Peers (the rich ones in the House of Lords) decide ordinary oldies dont need bus passes or free tv license.. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48046595Maybe we should just abolish state pensions and reopen workhouses.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 25, 2019 15:44:33 GMT
I do think the government want rid of state pensions. See the latest workplace pensions. They want people to pay (get deducted) out of their wages, for their pension. Sounds great? It costs to run a pension. Investments go down as well as up. It's early days with these workplace pension schemes. I would like to bet the 'investors' will be lucky to see their money back. Not to mention changing jobs every couple of years. Pay into a pension for three years, leave that job, start another one, stay for two years. So on and so on for thirty years, leaving multiple small pensions with each job. Once the payments stop, the 'pension pot' is eaten away in costs. You might as well put the money in the bank.
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 25, 2019 16:11:50 GMT
I donr think there will be a state pension for anyone over 30 something. There wont be an NHS or anything else provided by the state that we've had since 1947. If youve no money youre screwed...thats how the Tories want it. Private pensions wont be worth diddly squat,any that are the corporates will raid and steal the funds.Britain is just a country of rich robbing bastards.
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Post by VanWoman84 on Apr 25, 2019 16:26:41 GMT
The be fair, the workplace pensions are run by a company, not the one you are working for. All the same, anything that costs money to run, without ongoing contributions, will just slowly disappear.
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 25, 2019 17:03:04 GMT
Doesnt make any difference which company runs them,theyre run as pension fund investment companies and bought and sold by the financial corporates like commodities supposedly overseen by the Government. Theyre obliged to look after and protect the investments for pension stakeholders, that doesn't mean they will. Loads of people have just lost their savings in another scandal. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-47884273
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Post by patchypete on Apr 25, 2019 17:47:47 GMT
It’s another way of controlling us, don’t know what me and the missus will do when we got to leave the job and tied cottage, if we still got our health, it be van life for us, if that’s still allowed
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 25, 2019 18:22:30 GMT
Workhouse first,then turned into sludge for the food industry, Soylent Green style.
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Post by patchypete on Apr 25, 2019 18:30:26 GMT
Workhouse first,then turned into sludge for the food industry, Soylent Green style. I thought that soylent green was familiar, had to look it up, great film, years since I seen it, need to watch it again now.
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Post by valdez on Apr 25, 2019 21:17:51 GMT
Nomadcris i cannot tell you how much i agree with some of your last posts the powers that be would not bother if people were lay starving in the streets as long as they were not on their street i have to wait an extra 8 months for my pension wifey got to wait an extra year we both left school at 15 and the pension age is rising
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Post by NomadCris on Apr 25, 2019 22:57:19 GMT
The issue here is everything weve been promised and guaranteed for our lifetime by the state, 'free'health care, education ,welfare and old age pension 'from cradle to grave' and that we've paid for in our taxes and national insurance for decades, is being systematically stolen from us on the notion that the state cant afford it now and we're going to have to pay out again for it ourselves when we are now old and have no money to pay.
The state can afford to pay, the government chose not to and instead spent and continues to spend the money subsidising giant corporates and landowners that dont need subsidies and funding their ideology.
British Government of both parties has had ample opportunity over several decades to create a national pension fund,a pot of money specifically set aside to fund future pensions - especially revenue gained from North Sea oil - but chose not to do so many times because changing the way they funded pensions would have given them less money to waste on other policy projects.
Unlike Norway who have sensibly used ALL of their revenue to look after their citizens and who enjoy an exceptionally high standard if living, British politicians have chosen to squander and waste revenue on protecting the financial industry and its place in the financial world and pumping state money into private and corporate businesses, funding extravagant wars and their own ideological policies, both Tory and Labour are equally as guilty.
Our pensions are supposed to be paid by the people currently in work via taxes and NI instead of from a state pension fund so now suddenly after decades of mismanagement they tell us they cant afford us in old age.
They can,this country is one of the wealthiest top 5 nations,they just dont want to,even though the country can afford to,because to spend money putting the situation right is against their ideology and policies,the figures in the balance books wont look good so we will all end up living in abject poverty and struggle by into old age just like the majority of average Americans do, another rich nation that choses to fund the rich 1% not the poor 99% Britain- like America -is run by a self serving rich elite and the electorate keeps voting the fuckers into power so i guess as a nation we have only ourselves to blame for the poverty we endure.
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Post by fumps on May 28, 2019 14:24:29 GMT
The issue with the UK is that we used to take taxes from other countries in the Empire. Now that is over, we are finding the small population isn't pulling in what its used to & what it needs to update its physical and financial infrastructure.
Now we have a situation where all the old money and new money made here is invested offshore in tax havens & the mid to low earners are left with the bill, we cant afford what the economy demands so to keep us afloat the short sighted money grabbing government officials have sold off any opportunities we had of re-floating the books. So now we are left with a top heavy economy where vast amounts of money flows through our country, but none of it stays here. It simply goes elsewhere to the places where tax cost's less and we have nothing to invest in our financial infrastructure, things like the NHS and state pensions are now in threat because they don't offer any kind of return. And are seen as an expensive service we can no longer afford to run which is a horrible situation.
Politicians are now saying publicly that they will close the NHS down and sell it off with no backlash at all from the general public, This terrifies me to be honest because no one seems to be shooting back at them.....It's a very worrying time all round really. The future of this country seems to be aiming at a mass gentrification, meaning that if you are poor, you really don't matter, The irony is that the average worker in this country pays more into the economy than the high end earners because they pay their full amount of tax where the immoral millionaires of this country plant their money elsewhere to hide it from the taxman.
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Post by NomadCris on Jun 17, 2019 21:45:21 GMT
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Post by VanWoman84 on Jun 17, 2019 21:59:17 GMT
...do they know I read that then?
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