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Post by VanWoman84 on Oct 13, 2018 10:48:26 GMT
Unbelievable! But then you are talking about a government that had NO plan for after a leave vote!
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Post by NomadCris on Nov 18, 2018 9:36:33 GMT
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Post by VanWoman84 on Nov 18, 2018 12:02:20 GMT
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Post by NomadCris on Nov 18, 2018 12:37:59 GMT
No,it looks like its becoming official policy like the harassment of Hippy/New Age Travellers in the 80's 90's. The Government have no intention of providing solutions,only harassing fining and imprisoning anyone who doesnt fit in and tow the line.
In the Times today theyre reporting that 10000 army personnel are going to be mobilised around the country to deal with Brexit fallout.
Ergo anyone that looks remotely iffy is going to be a target by both 'normies' and the authorities. It wont take long for Tories to spin the 'All Travellers rob off you' line
Not good at all.
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Post by bigbear67 on Nov 18, 2018 12:58:50 GMT
It's a tough one is this. Nobody should be persecuted for living their life however they choose. On the other hand to be fair, irish travellers don't seem to do their own cause any favours. Localised crime seems to follow wherever they go, & the state they leave sites in is un necessary. We all try to keep a low profile while on our travels, yet the irish travelling community don't generally seem to show any regard for the surrounding area or population. Just saying, if we all left piles of shit & broken gates etc everywhere we went, how long would it be before all travelling/ wild camping was outlawed? I know they aren't all like that,& their culture is different to ours but any group of people with that kind of image is going to come up against obstacles. Hope this doesn't make me sound anti gipsey cos I'm not. Just think that if you're going to show no consideration for the people around you it's inevitably gonna end in tears.
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Post by NomadCris on Nov 18, 2018 13:08:40 GMT
The measures arent specifically aimed at Gypsy travellers,theyre aimed at anyone living a mobile life in vans trucks buses trailers etc,specofically those taking up residence in towns and cities like Bristol. Many Irish travellers have authorised sites they can use or relations who live in houses where they can go park up. Those of us who live in vans and trucks etc dont have anywhere to go.Potentially meaning you can be run out of any county and no where to legally stay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2018 13:54:17 GMT
mmmmmmmmmmm.......the thing is, those living on the road are in terms of the "norm" "establishment" dangerous and to be dragged back into control - which is why "gypsys/roma" whatever the label have always been persecuted. If you are a persecuted people, why should you feel any sense of responsbility for those who persecute you ? well, that takes a lot of personal psychological evolution ..... like the "christ" principal - love those who seek to destroy you ......... takes mega big bollocks. Is there anywhere on this beautioful little blue planet where some fucking set of political/commercial/religious cunts aren't trying to coerce/indebt/control/"protect" - hey hey hey boudica was fighting the same shit - why it take so long ? REVOLUTION ? fuck that................... look what happened in France - decades of pain and misery - and it continues all over this miserable and beautifull little handsome/beautiful/aweinspiring blue planet planet ..... it has the potential for Eden and stil we all hate and mistrust and join sides and keep being selfish and stupid ..................... for "christ'sake"...............go back to the 60s ....... you can't put LSD in the water supply but mebbe personal psyche/head/blow youir mind into a higher reality is the only way . I been outta my head for 30 years in commercial earning a living and working for the man and lying to myself - and even Elon Musk comes up against the same powers of darkness. lucifer (for want of a better word, like YIN) is at work in the centuries AND I to my last breath I will have to try find a way upward to the light......................no matter what it takes - lifetimes of misery - I just bastard/bitch have to keep going on the wings of hope that LOVE will find a way xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Post by bernie on Nov 28, 2018 22:34:55 GMT
I could live on the road for a year in any town your care to pick and even the residents of the roads I sleep in wouldn't realise I had been there. Stealth is about technique. If you confront the authorities they are always going to win. So don't!
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Post by VanWoman84 on Nov 28, 2018 22:44:30 GMT
Wise words bernie!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 17:03:13 GMT
I have a new HERO. There is a post on Facebook about a man who demolished a Travel In with a mini Digger because his building contractor bosses did not pay him. I cant share the video for some reason buts its gone viral on Fudbook. Before any do gooders slag me off for sticking up for this guy..... Just remember maybe someday your boss might fail to pay your wages and next thing you know you've lost your house.... Think on to anyone that judges this poor man. He is a HERO I have put in on public on my facebook if anyone wants to see it. www.facebook.com/simone.kay.16
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 20:02:09 GMT
I've seen the video and cannot bring myself to blame the guy. The building trade seems to be rife with the poor sods who do the work not being paid.
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Post by bigbear67 on Jan 22, 2019 20:24:12 GMT
I read somewhere that the guy had been paid, but due to a technical hitch it hadn't shown as being in his account. Even so apparently it wasn'g the 1st time the guy had had problems with wages not being paid. Either way, bet he felt better when he'd finished!
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Post by NomadCris on Jan 27, 2019 7:15:54 GMT
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Post by bigbear67 on Jan 27, 2019 10:29:28 GMT
What are we, some apoccalyptic 3rd world bunch of savages? Why would brexit turn us all into rampaging rioting looters? Just more fuckin scaremongering in my opinion. More likely to riot cos the fuckers aren't getting it sorted.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 12:27:10 GMT
Its the will of the people, no? Surely they should be planning street parties to celebrate, not soldiers to shoot a disaffected populus?
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